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Shane Edwards
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10 Sep 2016 05:21 PM
So I have a Teknetics T2 SE and I love it... It goes deep, has fast recovery and decent separation and accurate reads. I do very little coin shooting as my area has proven to be terrible for it. I use it on trashy sites, old homesteads and in the desert... When I say I want a PI that is good for Relics... It needs to be good around EMI (Powerlines mostly) and something I can use to actually target deep Iron with as some of the best relics in my area are iron (cast iron and such)... So looking to go even deeper than what the Teknetics T2 SE is capable of with a 15 or 17" coil... I understand the Deepseeker Coil on the ATX should do this for me. I also want to search more for old wagon trails, bandit hideouts and caches. The beach idea is to mix it up.... AND... I want to start nugget shooting, mostly in the Gold Basin Arizona area. With all of that in mind if had to go with one detector for all of this... What would it be? I keep coming back to the ATX but I have only ever considered the ML4500 or ATX and even the ML5000 briefly.
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12 Sep 2016 10:41 AM
I brought my LDMA metal detector to the Loud Mine camp for the outing next week. Hope to find somebody to train me on how to find something .. was kinda hoping there would be a few demonstrations and training classes while we're here.

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Tony Agricola
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13 Sep 2016 02:01 PM

To Discriminate or Not

My questions is this, unless I use discriminate mode set at about 20 (Fisher Gold Bug) I have constant signals on all metals all the time, if I was to dig each signal I would be in the same sq yard for about a week!!, the signals are from weak to very strong and many times there will be nothing , or of course the old piece of barbed wire,square nail etc.. ground balancing the machine is pretty simple so I do that frequently.

By using the discriminate mode am I losing gold at 20? (i have no idea what that number stands for) it seems that most iron junk reads from 20 down. I've used a 1/2 oz gold coin and a couple of little "pickers" that read around 40-50 on my MD, additionally the tone on discriminate is also more distinct ( lead sounds really good!) any advise is appreciated.

FYI . I use a set of "whites" headphones

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WILLIAM SOUTHERN
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13 Sep 2016 03:40 PM
Shane, I would have to say your research is sound on PI units for coin/relic and a Minelab gold nugget detector would not be my first choice. For that type work I use a CTX 3030 from Minelab, but not a PI. I do know the 4500 and 5000 are both used in the East to hunt battlegrounds etc. to get deeper than previous VLF hunters have and some incredible finds are being made. These guys dig everything because artifact hunting requires that or you miss some important finds. Coin hunting often the user wants accurate discrimination and that is not possible with a pulse induction detector and discrimination comes from a broken signal response.

Have you looked at the CTX 3030?
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13 Sep 2016 03:43 PM

 

Tony,

 

 

GB or GB-PRO? What are you hunting gold or coin/relic?

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14 Sep 2016 03:34 PM

If you are nugget shooting it is always best to run all metal and dig it all. 

 If coin or jewelry hunting in parks with the Gold Bug I usually turn sensitivity up to 12 oclock, then threshold somewhere near 11-12oclock, where you can just hear the hum, then do a ground grab over clean ground until the GB # settles in.

Then you can crank up the sensitivity and turn down into disc and run it up to 38-40, then you can either run in all metal with it set approx 11 oclock or where you can barely hear the thresh hum and watch the top of the speedometer ID's for targets above 38-40, or if you choose to run in disc mode just listen for strong repeatable signals and dig those over 38-40. I use 40 and have not missed much gold jewelry, from my experience. Lots of gold rings I have found at 50-52, but as high as 63-64 (it is a large gold spectrum) nickels hit solid at 58 usually. The settings above will not guarantee great targets but will cut down on the frustration of digging as much trash. 

Hope that helps

I believe Bill would agree that it is not a good idea to use discrimination mode nuggetshooting, unless perhaps to check a target.

 

 

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14 Sep 2016 05:50 PM
I have looked into a CTX and XP for that matter. Most everyone who has experience or owns a CTX and a T2 SE like what I already have tell me that I may have slightly more success in coin shooting and of course beach hunts would be possible with the CTX but if my main focus is Relics and Nuggets and some beach hunting then the T2 SE and ATX would be the better combination in the ways I seek to improve my options.

As for the ML 4500 or 5000...

I hate all of the necessary parts, the battery is separate from the main unit housing... Cords everywhere, not waterproof, super sensative to EMI and RFI and one must spend a fortune for all of this when maybe I can gain a couple inches of depth (which not everyone agrees that the ML 4500 or 5000 actually does get more depth than the ATX)... I get opinions that go back and forth on this. Funny thing is, what most complain about over a ML other than the price is the sound (noise) which the one thing I actually like LOL... I am taking the plunge and getting the ATX which btw apparently there is a new closed DD stock coil that achieves even greater depth with improved stability.
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14 Sep 2016 06:12 PM
I got a Deus and its pretty impressive all around, I took it to Coronado, Ca beach a month or 2 ago. Worked great. Although I preferred to run it in Goldfield mode (aka all metal) got more depth than the stock wet sand /dry sand settings. So many features to tune and now they are releasing a v4 with upgrades for nugget shooting and new coils, but then again its no PI machine but a great VLF incredibly light and versatile
Shane Edwards
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14 Sep 2016 06:38 PM
I know... I looked at that... Truthfully to your XP and Bill's CTX... I also saw the v4 and smaller coil that the XP is coming out with this week. It was super hard for me to pass up on either one as I realize I am spending enough to own one of those great machines. But after much consideration and gathering a ton of opinions (in which I paid particular attention to CTX and XP owners who also own and use the T2 SE that I use)... I just got to go with a PI. I mostly relic hunt in which I will begin focusing more on Old Wagon Trails and Lost Treasures so I need to go deep. The 20" Monocoil that ignores near surface targets and can pick up smaller targets at 2 feet is of great interest which the ATX offers. I also see many Western Australian Nugget Shooters liking the ATX and the new DD closed coil sealed the deal for me. My goal will be to master it. Using both my T2 SE and the ATX I should be able to clean out any area of all good targets. I think I will have to add a Gold Bug II and AT Pro or the XP eventually before I can feel complete!
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05 Jan 2017 07:42 AM
The XP is a great detector and light as a feather and I love it for coin relic hunting and the info above is very much correct. The XP will not go as deep as the CTX, but is super fast and will hear a dime half under a tin can lid by giving a slight chirp indicating a good target among trash. I also like the prospecting mode on the XP and it handles hot soil well. The ATX is also a great choice for an entry level PI and is a great detector as well as waterproof and will serve you well and yes will clean out most targets within it's capabilities and I hand it to Garrett for coming up with a lower priced entry level PI to give folks a different option. It will leave some small deep nuggets as well as large nuggets in very deep ground the GPX or GPZ models from Minelab will easily hear, but the cost difference in the two is important and Garrett does not claim it will out do the higher end PI units from Minelab..
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19 Jan 2017 11:34 AM
Anyone out there know anything about a Metal Detector Called Detech? As I am being told this European Company's product is so good they even make Coils for Minelab/Garrett to name but a few of the big guys in the Industry? Is this true?
Regards Patrick.
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23 Jan 2017 10:55 AM
Has anyone seen/used a Makro Gold Racer metal detector?
WILLIAM SOUTHERN
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20 Aug 2017 11:57 AM
I have not tried that one yet, but you may want to look at the Minelab Gold Monster 1000, it is a VLF for gold with fully automatic ground balance, no threshold to listen to, and a discrimination that is dependable! All this is controlled by a 24 bit micro processor and the cost is very reasonable at 700.00 (with military discount it is 679.15) GPAA also available through me... In my opinion it is likely the best VLF available and at 45 kHz it will hear gold as tiny as even the GB2 without all the noise.....

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09 Feb 2018 06:56 PM
I just picked up a Whites Goldmaster II in mint condition it's spent the better part of 26 years in a leather carrying bag in a closet. It has the original rechargeable battery pack (that took a full charge) and it has the original battery pack to put AA batteries in, I don't think this thing ever had AA batteries put in it. Has anyone ever used this model I know its a bit on the old side but for the price I couldn't pass it up. I've read great things about this detector just looking for more opinions and info. Thanks in advance.
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21 Feb 2018 02:35 PM
Bill, (may I call you Bill?) I have recently bought the very first TDI SL Special Edition. I wish to get (pay) for instruction form a PRO. Ok, it's not a Minelab but I certainly would like to hook up. I will move from the Angels Camp area to Yarnell (Stanton) in April, where I will use the machine extensively. terry_cieszki@yahoo.com   Tnx.  ╦╦Ç
ROBERT MARTINEZ
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25 Feb 2018 06:16 AM
I was watching a YouTube video about the sound of the threshold and it's being rhythmic. Would turning on a detector in its preset suggestions and listening to the threshold be the sound I'm looking for?
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03 Mar 2018 12:48 PM
None of the more experienced "salts" have responded so may I? If your You Tube hunt hasn't clarified, the threshold is merely the back round noise you want to hear while detecting. It is controlled for volume and should be "just loud enough" to hear it. Other controls will smooth it out so it is "steady", no warble or stuttering. Some don't like to listen to this continuous noise so they turn it down so it is not heard. Generally speaking, this is ok but as you get more experience, you will learn that some large nuggets that are deep and tiny ones at the surface, will only barely sound off above the threshold. This is what is called a "whisper" signal. By turning this setting to "silent", you may miss these nuggets.  Hope I helped.  ╦╦Ç
ROBERT MARTINEZ
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03 Mar 2018 08:05 PM
Thank you
Carl Crawford
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04 Mar 2018 06:02 PM
Best under 1000$ detector for gold prospectors waterproof..and backpack essentials for hiking expedition..
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04 Mar 2018 06:02 PM
Best under 1000$ detector for gold prospectors waterproof..and backpack essentials for hiking expedition..
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05 Mar 2018 06:50 AM
Hey Carl
I'm a Garrett fan I use the Garrett ATX, and the AT gold is under a 1000 they both work great for me, there are a lot of good metal detectors out there you have to fit a detector that works for you, I'm also a relics Hunter so I use the AT gold alot, I have been using Garrett detectors for over 20 years now and have no complaints. Personally I listen to the tones and never look at my detector unless I do adjustments, you can look at the gold bug2 also it's a good detector for under 1000$, but not waterproof. Research research research, hope that helps I could tell you more abought my equipment but your ear would go numb.
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05 Mar 2018 03:36 PM
Bill I have found two sites that have good size deposits of cemented rock. Will my Goldbug work on the cemented rock to fing gold??
Thanks Darryl
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05 Mar 2018 03:36 PM
So I just got off the phone with Mr Bill Southern. I had watched a video with he and Kevin Hoagland discussing the settings on gold detectors. I recently went out to one of the GPAA claims North of Morristown and tried out the settings. I was finally able to operate my detector correctly. I called Mr Southern to thank him for his advice. This meant alot to me after years of trying to figure out what was being explained. Now it all makes sense.
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05 Mar 2018 04:03 PM
Hey Robert. What is the link to your he video? Sounds like something I’d like to watch!
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18 Aug 2019 10:40 AM
Is the Whites MXT any good for finding gold?
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