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Last Post 16 Sep 2019 10:28 PM by  Robert Murata
CRAPY CLAMES NO GOLD BUT ALLWAS GET THE BILL
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Anthony Ingersoll
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11 Jul 2019 03:09 PM
It seems to me that many people think that they will get rich off of prospecting. That is the furthest thing from the truth. In all reality, you will put more into it than what you would get back. However, there are other benefits of prospecting in of its self. The first and foremost, you will meet other individuals who have a like minded purpose. If you join a chapter, you will make new connections and hopefully new friends along the way. It is hard to tell how much I have put into it already; but the time outdoors has always been a big bonus for me though. As I read earlier, the learning curve is going to be steep. If you want to get gold for each dollar you spend, then go and buy the nuggets and such elsewhere.
CHRISTOPHER SATKOWSKI
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11 Jul 2019 03:33 PM
I think everyone who joins this and everyone who goes out should be doing it on a hope of making a living, but no when to draw the line and cut their losses, and move in a different direction There should be no such thing as recreational prospecting. Otherwise, the Mining Laws of 1872 just don't apply. I do think very, very few will become successful with this, nut that's fine, its like a learning thing. Use those contacts to go off to bigger and better things and grow the community. At least that's my plan.

Even the crappy claims you learn something every time you go out. Now locally, I avoid the claims that seem to have 2000 feet of alley fill before bedrock. With some of the valley fill as deep as 7000 feet to bedrock in the Phoenix valley, if the claim is located in a very flat area, miles from any peaks, that is a big signal to avoid as much as possible. Use those crappy claims as much as you can to make contacts, and hopefully someday you'll be able to get a working one. If you fail, at least tried living the dream for a while.
Anthony Ingersoll
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11 Jul 2019 06:43 PM
You make a good point in regards to making a living. Maybe that is better suited for out west or in the New England States where the consentration of gold is much better. Ohio is known for fine gold and flour gold with the occasional pickers. The good news to that though is that where I live at, I am only 7 hours away from where I can go digging in Canada (6 hours from Niagara Falls ON). However, there are plenty of creeks and streams in the area that I live in and I have already secured permission from the land owners and the parks commission. The only catch with the parks commission is that I have to give a detailed plan on what equipment will be used, how it will be used, and the like. I was surprised that they agreed to allow me to do that honestly. With that being said, I imagine they just want the environmental impact to be minimal.
ARTHUR WAUGH
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11 Jul 2019 07:10 PM
There are no "recreational" or "hobby miners/prospectors" We are all SMALL SCALE MINERS!!!!!!!

Use that term anytime you talk about what we do. Nothing less will suffice.
William Hall
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11 Jul 2019 07:18 PM
Ed Tomlinson Welcome,

If you did not get to bedrock, you probably left gold behind
Dont give up, but find and get to bedrock
Thats the secret
And yes we are small scale miners .

Bill
So Much River So Little Time...Get Out There
LARRY HABERKERN
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16 Jul 2019 06:10 PM
I've been a member for about 9 years in the GPAA and a member of LDMA for about 2 years. My wife and I have only been to the claims in Kern county Ca. and the claims in the southern part of Gold country, Columbia, Sonora and Stanislaus river. We have found gold in all of them, but just like everyone else, we didn't find OZS. What we did find was beautiful country, great exercise, nice people and some gold! We always say... "It's more than we had, but less than we wanted." We have found enough gold to make to make us happy and had a Damn good time doing it. I have a friend that I take with me on some of the trips to the Keysville area. When he started he use to scoop up the dirt by the bucket full and want me to run it in my recirculating sluice. I explained that it's not how much dirt you move, but what dirt you move. Keep trying, get better at reading dry washes, creeks and rivers, improve your panning, set your sluice up correctly and last but not least ask some of these old timers for info and help.
Tad Hamilton
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26 Jul 2019 11:53 AM
Why don't you get with a chapter and talk to one of their mentors they can make the learning easier. The ones I know are always helping people learn where to find gold
Robert Murata
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31 Jul 2019 05:03 PM
I have been to three Claims in Southern California this year, and I always find some color. Not sure where you are prospecting. You can always choose to find your own claims or purchase one, I have done both, and yes the claims that I own produce more gold than GPAA shared claims. I do not believe any recreational miner can make any money at this hobby. I really only joined to support our love of the hobby, and this club.
Thomas Chambers
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01 Aug 2019 03:45 PM
My wife and I always always find gold on the claims if I metal detecting three or four hours and come up dry we get out the dry washer and start shoveling buckets classify classify classify run the buckets run the buckets run the buckets then we take it home and clean up are concentrates always always always find gold. May not be detectable with a metal detector or too much trash in the area dry wash if you come up empty but make sure you have the knowledge of where to dry wash where to dig education of geology is a very very big thing in this recreational sport if you don't have the knowledge you're going to come up empty every time
Laurin Cavender
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02 Aug 2019 12:16 AM
I've been a member of GPAA for many years, in fact, I was originally the 486th member of GPAA. I was friends with George Massey from when our children were youngsters. I think you dropped your end of the stick if you did not get a Mining Guide. I have had several over the years and kept them all until my home burned. I have a current one and have found many properties to be good places to go and do small scale mining. Perhaps you have had bad luck or maybe you just have not learned how to do gold recovery yet. I do know that I have never had a deaf ear turned towards me anytime that I have ever contacted the GPAA home office, they have always been very courteous and prompt to respond to any request. As for the claims not only have I found gold on the claims in the MG I have used the guide to point me in the right direction to develop my own places to mine from private landowners who allowed me to pan on their property. I've made some new friends that way as well as gotten some new folks into our ranks. So all in all you are either really unlucky or you want to be spoon-fed, Be a man step up to the plate and call the home office when there is a problem and let them know so that they can rectify the problem, as for the mining, team up with someone and see if they can give you a few pointers. Remember it's like fishing, In fishing, it's called fishing not CATCHING! Likewise, it is Panning, Not Gold Grabbing! There is not gold in every pan, but if you don't get water and dirt in your pan you'll never get any gold in there. I do not know of your proficiency at panning gold, I do know it takes some people more practice than it does others to become proficient. I have taught many folks both old and young to pan, the easiest way I know to learn to be proficient is to get a small tub fill it 3/4 full of water, get a bag of play sand from Home Depot or similar, buy a pack of lead or steel shot or BB's put about a cup of sand into your pan add 10 or 12 BBs or shot start panning in your tub you should be able to recover 80 to 90% of the BBs or Shot the first time keep at it until you are able to get them all as easily and as quickly as possible. Since Gold is at least 19 times heavier than these shot or BBs it won't take long to get good at recovering all of the shot or BBs and you can be sure that if you are getting all of them then you will be getting Gold if it is there! In fact, more than once while teaching someone to pan there has been both black sand and even a few pieces of Gold in the pan that came right out of that play sand from the Home Depot. So keep trying, or consider that maybe Gold panning is not for you and find something else that you can do in the great outdoors because that's what it is all about anyways is getting out and enjoying ourselves, and even getting some exercise while we enjoy the great outdoors. Laurin "Swamp~Fox"
bob alexander
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12 Aug 2019 02:47 PM
I also worked a few claims and found some gold but most times if there a road or easy entry it will be worked also by non members that sneak in
So try looking for new areas to work
Do the research and test then if it passes your gold requirements then tell us to check it out
This is how we all can add new claims to the group
With our members looking for new claims we can add
We can keep good grounds for our club
Chuck Shepard
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16 Aug 2019 09:09 PM
Out here in western Colorado the majority of what we have is "flour" gold, our streams and washes have a decent supply of gold, silver, platinum, lead, zinc, and tin among other base metals, and they are not hard to find IF your not looking for the stuff you see on TV. And it takes a lot of practice to recover it, our club was doing panning demos/classes at a historical day at one of the local museum sites using claim dirt, one smartass brat challenged me as to where the gold came from, I told him that "you are walking on $20 worth with every step you take anywhere", well he insisted I prove it to him, sooo I took a mortar trowel and a finish pan out to the driveway, did a quick dowse, and scooped up about a cup full of dirt, took it back and panned out about 100 small flakes, his eyes got big, he was with me so he knew I hadn't put any in there to start, he apologized for doubting what I told him. One little gal said she would like to go panning while dad was fishing but they couldn't buy any pans or screens, I smiled and told her the Good Lord gave her 2 pans to sample with, reached down into a tub and pulled up handful of material and showed her how to hand-pan, big eyes and smiles were everywhere, including some of our old hands, when I rolled off the dirt and the palm of my hand just glistened a rainbow of color.
As I tell people, "gather up the wife, kids, cat, dog, and camper and go out for a weekend, if you find a few flakes then "WOW we found some gold", if not then "WOW we had a great weekend of good family time together" . A win-win situation no matter what". Just my 2 cents worth of humble opinion.
Chuck S
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James Martin
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18 Aug 2019 05:37 PM
I went out to my first GPAA claim a week ago. Isolated and not a soul to be seen. Saw very small specks in the pan but so small it would not spearate in the pan from the sand. Needless to say the GF and I enjoyed the peace and quiet as much as the panning. No complaints here.
Elijah White
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27 Aug 2019 08:51 PM
Agree with you. The only thing I really got out of any of this is a gold pan. I found gold lots of other places but never on a claim from this group
Stuart Brough
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28 Aug 2019 10:05 AM
What are some of the claims that people are getting skunked at?

There might be a member who has found gold on them that can guide where to look.
Martin Pohle
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29 Aug 2019 06:48 AM
Sorry to hear your so disappointed!
I’m a greenhorn, been out 3 times on the GPAA claims. I found gold all 3 times!!
I studied a lot before my first outing and used my new knowledge to find the shiny.

The gold is out there.
Like others have said, there’s hard work involved, it’s not just sitting there.
Good luck on your future outings
Chris Starr
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04 Sep 2019 11:35 PM
I was in Stanton About 5 months ago in slaughter creek and found gold. I don’t know many other places that have been more panned over than that little patch of desert. It’s all about knowing where the gold isn’t that helps find where it is. Kevin H is constantly doing articles about where to look.

Like others I have always found the GPAA/LDMA staff in the office very accommodating and helpful. Hopefully you can give them a call to get a book. I don’t doubt they will lend a hand.

I’d even suggest attending a couple chapter meetings if that’s possible. I was on a GPAA claim finding nothing and attended a meeting asked a couple local guys who been around a while. They gave me very insightful information which lead me to to a spot I worked for quite a while. I go back every once in a while it’s been worked over but I still managed to find gold.

Hopefully this helps
CS
Chris Kelley
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05 Sep 2019 02:36 PM
I don't know about crappy I have been skunked on a claim or two but I have found some color It is work and doesn't come easy..
Matthew Cox
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10 Sep 2019 10:39 PM
You have to remember this could be the Chris Kelley from Bering Sea Gold that has a bad attitude guys? LOL!!!
William Hall
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11 Sep 2019 06:29 PM
LMAO
If it is Chris, I hope he left his dad and brother in AK
What a dirt bag his dad is

Bill
So Much River So Little Time...Get Out There
Robert Murata
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16 Sep 2019 10:28 PM
You know for the small annual fee to be a member, not sure how anyone can complain, I found gold on three of the claims in So Cal, never a lot but great practice. If your expecting to retire on GPAA claims your delusional. I own two claims of my own and they produce. This is hobby-club, I am happy with my membership.
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