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CRAPY CLAMES NO GOLD BUT ALLWAS GET THE BILL
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MICHAEL GOETTINA
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26 Oct 2016 04:18 PM
    BIN TO OVER 40 GPAA CLAMS IN THE CLAMS BOOK AND 8 LDMA  OVER WORKED AND CRAPPY GOLD OK FOR CAMPING BUT AS FAR AS FOR GOLD YA RIGHT AND AS FOR THE MINING GUILD   NEVER GOT A NEW ONE FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS NOW BUT ALL-WAY GET THE BILL
    Vince Emery
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    27 Oct 2016 05:40 AM

    Have to agree with you. Worst $155 I've ever spent for a membership. At least here on the E. Wa. and N. Idaho areas.  I think a person is better off to join a local prospecting club.

    ARTHUR WAUGH
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    27 Oct 2016 06:50 AM

    Well, for starters I have been to several claims over the years, and have always found gold, even when just running a few sample pans.  Granted you are not going to get an oz. from them when you hit them.  Had you ever tried contacting the office on the guide issues?  It almost sounds like you expect the gold to either be on the surface, or someone to hand it to you already processed and in a vial.  The learning curve is steep, and anything you find is that much more valuable due to the effort required to find it and get it out.

     

    If you are so unhappy with GPAA and LDMA memberships then I might suggest that it is time to find another endevor, and put the memberships on the market and move on.

    ADAM ANDREWS
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    27 Oct 2016 04:29 PM

      I agree Art, "The learning curve is steep"...Really steep, like in my greenhorn days, we found nothing. Then the challenge became, don't get skunked. We did dumb stuff like hauling buckets of dirt up steep trails, then driving them 100 miles home just to get two pieces of fly poop Gold. After you're a Sourdough miner, the challenge is out smarting the Gold and getting it in the vial.

     

        If there's kids all standing around looking in your sluice box, toss your 1 oz. nugget in the sluice box. When they see the giant nugget, they'll all run to their parents for a camping plate then they'll all go pan for Gold with them. It drives them nuts, and gets them out of your sluice box.

     

     

    ARTHUR WAUGH
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    27 Oct 2016 05:05 PM

    LMAO, if I had a 1 oz nugget, it would be triple locked in a safe, not in my pocket in the field.  

     

    Late wife's first outing was with the neighbor, she had a pie tin and the collander from the kitchen.  Dug behind a rock, panned it out found a nice picker, went to the neighbor and asked if that was what she was supposed to be looking for.  He said yep.  Went back to her rock, panned some more and went back to verify the second picker.  He got up said I've been her 3 days and not a speck.  Told his wife to throw everything in the trailer, they were going home.  20 minutes later they were gone..........

    ADAM ANDREWS
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    27 Oct 2016 09:18 PM

      I once saw a guy crash his radio controlled airplane into his other radio controlled airplane. The other airplane was about 25' behind him...Destroyed them both...Then he violently threw both of the airplane remains into the back of his Volvo station wagon. Smashing the rear door on a wing until it closed. He then peeled out, raced out of the flying area...Never to be seen again.

     

      It was the funniest thing I've ever seen...It would have been the $10,000 winner on Americas funniest home videos. Too bad I didn't film it. 

    Joseph Loyd
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    29 Oct 2016 09:07 PM
    This is a game of wanting to learn as much as possible .I as one how has been doing this for many years .I was 5 or6 when I started panning wit my dad .There are still many days that nothing was found .I did it just today after running 4 5 gallons of dirt .It is the hunt that counts .And yes I am in gold country right now .There is no guarantee in mining .Thats the fun of it .
    WILLIAM HALL
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    31 Oct 2016 03:55 PM
    I didnt think LDMA members got a GPAA mining guide.
    The OP was complaining in the members area "he never got a MG"

    Yes no maybe ?

    Bill
    RONALD PETERSON
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    31 Oct 2016 04:03 PM
         Yes Bill, LDMA members get a mining guide just like GPAA members do.         Ron
    ARTHUR WAUGH
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    31 Oct 2016 04:57 PM
    LDMA includes lifetime GPAA membership.
    WALTER EASON
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    01 Nov 2016 06:36 AM
    If there was no guide sent to you, you can call the office and have them look into it. We have records as to if it was sent to a member, if not and you are up to date I am sure customer service will help you. If a guide is sent out and it shows that it was received you should have called so it could be traced. In some cases you may have to pay for a new one, you just have to call and see. By all accounts there should be something new soon but not sure when I know it is in the works for information through the web site. I guess you could also see what sill be coming out.
    ROBERT WEISS
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    30 Mar 2017 03:32 PM
    I feel your frustration, when I was new at prospecting I would get so frustrated that I would spend days looking for gold and not finding it. It took me  a year to finally figure out techniques which started showing results. As far as claims go, any club claim for all the different clubs out there are going to be mostly worked. I usually try to go to claims which are difficult for people to get to especially claims which require a very reliable and capable 4wd. I have been finding gold on these claims just not more than little micro flakes here and there. I just try to refine my techniques  and adapt to these highly worked claims and my results are improving each time, in fact I always find gold every time I go out, but 90% of the time it's just really fine powder gold. Just be patient.
    michael neely
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    31 Mar 2017 09:04 AM
    Yeah gold prospecting is fun. And it gets me out of this damn city. I will happily take the few pickers and the few flakes I find. Got me a new Garrett metal detector. Mabey I can increase my finding. However I am just glad to be out of the city.
    TIM LEIBEL
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    02 Apr 2017 06:59 PM
    Ok, I am an LDMA member which means I am also a LIFETIME GPAA member. I get mining guides when they come out, the last was in July 2014. I have access to the online guide. I find gold on every claim LDMA or GPAA. I go too. Sometimes not much, 1/8 gram or so, sometimes, 2-3 grams. If you are not finding gold on these claims, I would appreciate you sharing where you are finding gold please. If you really are not happy I for one will be sorry to see you go, but do not renew if you don't feel it isworth it. We all work to hard to Pay for things we get no value from.
    Eddie diGirolamo
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    27 Apr 2017 09:05 PM
    I've been at it for awhile and never really get alot "YET", but I'm learning. I watch YouTube videos, especially Jeff Williams videos. He has alot on knowledge from working and collecting information from the "Old Timers" not to mention he also holds a degree in geology. Yes his videos can be crazy, but he's also after educating the younger generation. The most important thing I do when I work a claim is to SAMPLE, if I find gold and I've got limited time and stay and work the spot. I'll usually check the cons in half an hour or so, if they still good then I'll commit and bust my ass. My other secret weapon is my bucket vac, nothing like finding someones diggings and vacuuming the cracks in the bed rock that they didn't, that one always pays off. I also like to hard to reach locations, most people want to park setup and run the same spot. I realize that these secrets of mine are nothing to most of the seasoned prospectors on this site, but in time I should develop pretty consistent gold producing outings.
    TIM LEIBEL
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    27 Apr 2017 09:58 PM
    Unless you are running a large mining operation you are not going to get 10, 20 or 30 ounces a week anywhere. If your work hard, run 6 to 8 hours a day e dry day with a dredge,highbanker or dry washer you can get an 1/2 ounce it even a full ounce a week in a lot of the in the Muning Guide. There is a steep learning curve, it also requires work, but oh how sweet when you finish clean up and you gave that gold no one has seen since God put it there.
    DAVID BRAND
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    28 Apr 2017 09:06 PM
    Well I haven't been at as many claims as Michael but I have been at a number of them, what I have found is they are about as well used as any club claim and no worse. I belong to 4 other clubs in two states and the results are about the same. Very tough going! This is not a get rich game, I figure it is another way to enjoy the outdoors and it is as expensive as your pocket book will allow or as economical as you want to work at making it. Honestly finding the gold is a bonus and to do it consistently you have to do a lot of research or go with someone that has. If you are in it for the gold and not the enjoyment best to get outfit not then invest in the research to learn how to read the land and your odds mock likely will improve. Good luck!
    Jeremy Perkins
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    29 Apr 2017 12:07 PM
    I am a new lifetime LDMA member and I never received a MG either, but never really gave it a thought.
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    29 Apr 2017 03:22 PM

    Jeremy, If you have not received your mining guide, just give Ann or Jenn a call at the main office. All you have to do is give them your address and they will send out the 2014 mining guide to you. 

    GARY WATTS
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    10 May 2017 06:35 AM
    I used to get frustrated but after much trial and error I have been able to better determine where the higher concentrations of gold should settle in a river, I have also improved my recovery efforts and as such my results are beginning to improve. AS an example, I was out last week at a new location. We dug the first decent looking spot we came to with zero results after about an hours effort. We stopped , analyzed the location and the river, moves about 50 years and boom....first bucket produced gold!

    as far as the mining guide, its on line, no need to wait for a book.....

    Good luck
    Clark Mossman
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    12 May 2017 08:32 PM
    If I had been to 40 "clams" and never found gold, 1st I'd start going to "claims". And then I would take a good hard look at myself and admit I wasn't a very good prospector.
    Miner Mike Finlay
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    15 May 2017 04:03 PM
    Clark hit the nail on the head,,,, I have Been doing the Gold thing for 50 years and heard most all "Newbie bitching" reasons you can hear about No gold I can stand But this wins the prize . 1st get you a panning bag or two and a Home depot tub,,,And a person that Realy knows how to pan then let him show you how to pan . Then wear that bag out over and over panning to you are tired of it . Then ask the person that showed you how to pan go to several caims where you did not find gold and show you how again . Some can find gold right off the bat,, some need help bad . Get some help quick . It's hard to jump right in and find gold each and every time but 40 claims,,,,, No way . Get the bags and tub with help to show you how to pan . Good Luck,,,Miner Mike .
    WILLIAM HALL
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    16 May 2017 05:26 PM
    You mean the gold aint layin right on the ground ?!?!?
    I have to work for it ?!?!?
    TIM LEIBEL
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    17 May 2017 06:07 AM
    The old truth Gold mining starts at the pan and ends at the pan. Learn to pan and you will find gold.
    james tribble
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    17 May 2017 01:45 PM
    I have had good days and bad days,, some days i found gold,, other days i just moved alot of dirt. Thats life, if your never finding anything, then its time to try new tactics, or a new hobby. I was at gold and gem grubbing last week, after 60 buckets,,,, no gold, not even a spec,, but the gems were more than jumping. The folks next to us, didnt find any good gems but they did find some nice flakey gold. Its a crap shoot, you ether love doing this or you dont.
    Sorry to hear that your having a difficult time
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