Permission to Dredge Claims in Idaho
Last Post 10 May 2016 03:37 PM by joseph Loyd. 6 Replies.
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Frank SprungUser is Offline
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09 May 2016 03:28 PM

    I talked to Chris Houghes an Idaho geologist he said i need to fill out forest service NOI and EPA NOI  and plan of operations or POO and Letter permit with the IDWR. he also said that i need to get permission to dredge the claims I'm planning to be at to put in my plan of operations. Im planning on one of these Chomco revised, nahkohe morning star, Boise gold or Idaho special 2. I don't know which one yet because I live in Illinois. So who do I talk to to get permission to dredge? He said i would need names because the claims are under names.

    Here is the site that he sent me too: http://www.fs.usda.gov/wps/portal/f...ment 

    also: http://www.idwr.idaho.gov/streams/recreational-mining-permits.html

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    10 May 2016 05:58 AM
    One of the mitigation things i would like to try to control turbidity with a Boom down stream from the dredge as an experiment if some one has tried this already let me know please.
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    10 May 2016 06:18 AM

    I don't have anyexperience in ID, but for starters, a boom is usually used to contain surface contamiments such as oil.  It won't do anything for suspended sediments which will usually disperse within a couple hundred feet or so.

     

    Next up is getting a POO/NOI done.  There are some of those that have been in process for years with USFS, and I doubt you can get one through in time for this summer.  First thing to do is contact the USFS and ask what the cost of one is.  They are starting to have the applicant pay the costs of getting it done in some areas.  Same thing with the EPA and state.  As to claim owners, you would have to go to the mining claim number and find the owner of record either off the claim paperwork or the county recorder and contact  for said letter

     

    They have put up enough hoops and blocks to make it virtually impossible to do what you want. It is apparently done in cahoots with the environmental lobby to get us out of the water, as is being done in other states out here now. 

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    10 May 2016 08:52 AM

    I don't believe it should take more than 60days to 1 year max according to this site http://www.deq.idaho.gov/media/5163...e-0912.pdf

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    10 May 2016 09:40 AM
    COE generally does not want to mess with small mining dredges and usually won't interfear.  State DEQ and EPA may take that time frame to issue their permit, but USFS will be the stumbling block on the NOI/POO. You could file the paperwork and depending on what/how many are in front and the limited people they have, it could be a year before they even get to it.  And to top it off I believe they (USFS) are only going to issue so many authorizations........  Don't want to be a wet blanket, but I really wish you the best in trying to accomplish your goal.  By the time you get done with all the paperwork, fees, etc it may not be all that worthwhile to hit any of our claims for a short period of time from the distance you are, unless it is just to say you did it and cross it off the bucket list.
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    10 May 2016 02:09 PM
    For Idaho--If you are in a stream / river that allows dredging, need to check Idaho maps and information on web site, and if your dredge is under 5 inch and meets hp requirements there is an EPA standardized permit that is good till 2018. I think you have to register for it. You also have to comply with the other links within the website. Doing something different than what they have there general permit set up for will become a problem, this would include using a boom in my opinion. Just read through the pages that are brought up within the links on the general permit and follow all instructions. Look at all information for expiration dates and research accordingly. Hop this helps
    If you notice an error in the Online Mining Guide or with claim information please add in the updated information into the online mining guide to inform other members. Thank You Walter H. Eason
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    10 May 2016 03:37 PM
    You should get ahold of Poe at ARMA and he or his people can help you out with what you want .

    Here is some news from Idaho .Contact these people.http://www.goldprospectors.org/News...icleID/147

     

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