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Last Post 13 May 2020 07:01 PM by  William Hall
Patented Placer Claims
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Jess Lindley
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12 May 2020 01:08 PM
    I have acquired access to mine a patented placer claim & my scans indicate a concentrated deposit under a bench adjacent to the river as it now exists. I have attempted to contact BLM & Corp of Engineers to no avail, China Virus. I am sure there is a set-back distance from the river bank, has anyone delt w/ this situation? I intend to remove the overburden & create a pond to Suction Dredge & would be isolated from the river. The claim is in Colorado & Suction Dredging is allowed in my area, although this would be more akin to Highbanking. I also have a 12 acre Island indicating a concentrated deposit, has anyone mined an Island or know the Regulations for such an enterprise?
    William Hall
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    12 May 2020 07:13 PM
    Jess,

    I'm not a lawyer, not a BLM person, do your research, due diligence
    Speaking from a California point of view, IF the claim is actually patented ground (it is privately owned, not NF, BLM, state land, leased)
    unless you are moving 100s of yards of material or dismantling stream banks with significant surface disturbance
    have written, signed and dated permission
    You dont need no stinking (using my best mexican voice) BLM
    Islands, see above.
    Good luck

    Bill
    So Much River So Little Time...Get Out There
    Jess Lindley
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    13 May 2020 09:58 AM
    William, Thanx for the reply. This claim was patented in 1885, is privately owned & administered by the land owner. I know BLM has no authority on a patented claim, but I have had interference in the past w/ BLM, Corps of Engineers & Water Conservation District when it comes to working anywhere near a river. I have a Lode Claim in northwest Az. w/ 2 miles of road that has had no maintenance since 1926. BLM will not allow road improvements, claiming I already have access under the law. I can not afford to challenge them in court, so I am trying to avoid any conflicts w/ this project, since I plan the process aprox. 80,000 cubic yards of pay material. I was just fishing to see if anyone else had experience w/ a similar situation.
    William Hall
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    13 May 2020 07:01 PM
    Jess,

    Yes I believe you could get some pushback on 80k cuyd
    but you kinda know what you are up against
    the feds are in any hurry to do anything time is on their side
    All I can suggest is risky, I would not recommend
    document every time you have attempted to contact, date, time
    if and when you do actually speak to a live being, names, badge numbers, general conversations
    move forward with the project, ask for forgiveness
    again not recommenced, but I know we want to, F**Kem

    Good Luck,
    Bill
    So Much River So Little Time...Get Out There
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