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Mark Romano
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13 Oct 2016 03:57 PM

    Has anyone bought any claims from any of the sellers currently online?  I have bought a couple, and there is the company Gold Rush Expeditions I have heard mixed things about. Their claims sure look promising... There are a lot of claims for sale, but I am wondering if anyone can give me some insight on the more frequent sellers.  Any help or advice is much appreciated.

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    14 Oct 2016 06:09 AM

    First thing to do is run down the claim to see if it actually exists in the sellers name.  NEVER buy sight unseen.  If the seller won't allow actually going out and sampling, RUN at mach 3.  And don't just sample where the seller wants you to.  Are you buying to use or to flip?   Be aware there are two filing times of the year with BLM (end of August and end of Dec. Claim filing and proof of work)  Also filing with the county.  If over 20 acres, need to have one person per 20 acres or portion thereof.  IIRC you can buy a bigger claim and hold it the first year as an individual, but the next year has to have the right number of folks to keep at size.

    BLM will take you fees and not let you know if you have been sold a bogus claim, and no refunds is the general rule.

     

    Have never bought on line and never will.......BUYER BEWARE......lots of scammers.

    Two things to never buy online.....a wife and a gold minig claim

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    14 Oct 2016 10:01 AM

      I'm always checking out the Gold claims on E-bay to learn and for entertainment...First the 'Clown' on E-bay who was selling a useless 'patented' Gold claim in the Cargo Muchacho mountains (So. Ca, & Az. and the Mexican border area) He stated  that he didn't own all of the claim, just 90%. The other 10% wouldn't sell. Here's the funny part, you cannot ever mine there ever again because of endangered Bats living in the mine...And the tree hugging environmentalists threatens to sue anyone who even enters the mine (The mine has a locked steel bat gate). So the new E-bay buyer couldn't own the mine, couldn't enter the mine, and couldn't mine in the mine...Go figure...What a joke, and yet the bids were up tp $5000...Maybe the bat freaks bought it.

     

      On the other hand, one seller who was very friendly & communicative, offered to meet me at the Big Bear Ca. Gold claim he was selling. He was ok with sampling, and the Pacific Crest Trail went through the claim, so there were people everywhere (by Crab Flats in Big Bear) I didn't buy it because it kept getting re sold on E-bay. I wondered if the USFS was interfering with restrictions in a sacred PCT area, but I don't know.

     

      Do your homework like Arthur said, and I hope the USFS doesn't chase you off of your own claim like they did recently in the Kern, Lake Isabella area. That was documented in the Pick & Shovel

     

      The Expedition seller on E-bay looks like he has some nice claims, but who knows...Are they mined out, free mill or expensive Sulfide ore? I would only be interested in a free mill site. And NOT in a 'Monument' & not in a 'Wilderness Area' (No vehicle access period). Our local FS Ranger said "The 1872 Mining Act gave you access with a Mule, it didn't say anything about a vehicle" So watch out for FS jerks wanting to stop mining in 'their' forests.

     

      All of these things must be looked into before buying...Why are they selling??? No Gold??? No access??? BLM & FS restrictions & intimidation???

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    16 Oct 2016 03:05 PM

    Thank you guys for the input. I did research for the claim I do currently own, it wasnt much investment to secure it once I confirmed it was a true claim, and it is definitely in a gold bearing area.   I was also able to talk to the neighboring claim owner,  The only reason I did buy it sight unseen. Now I am interested in looking for a larger area to start a placer operation but that wont be until further down the road, and I certainly will do plenty of testing. But for a couple small 20 acre claims, I do know there are a few sellers who stake claims in good areas for good prices (less than $5000). I would be interested in picking a couple up knowing they are legitimate, so I can have a couple to work as I jump from state to state. So as far as recreational, affordable claims go....I was wondering if there were any sellers who are better to go with. I like the individual I bought my claim from, but he only only does a few at a time in Arizona. GRE has quite a few in Oregon, Montana....they come off as a trustworthy company but they dont show any testing to back up their guarantee!!

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    21 Oct 2016 10:43 AM
    Why don't you research it and stake it yourslf? Its not that tuff to do. I bought my 1st claim and then staked my own 2nd claim here in northern Idaho. And ya you have to readd all the fine print1st!! and always watch your back w/ th forest circus thts a given!' I assume your in the south AZ or cA? I'd be interested in maybe doing a lim swap onlyseasonal not actually slling but I work yours during my winter and you work mine in the summer? Keep in mind we cn still dredge here!.........Rick.....
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    21 Oct 2016 11:47 AM

      That's cool, welcome Rick. Enjoy your dredging up there in Idaho. We are hoping & still trying to get Ca. Gold dredging going again.

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    21 Oct 2016 03:58 PM
    Ya we've been watching it all along w/ my other local club, just don't get how they can supercede the law! but they do pretty arrogant is all I know, but we won't get me started on that for now. By the way I have also been watching the same clim sellers that you hve and they don't appear to be bad, they've had some pretty interesting things in MT. butmost of there stuff is lode oriented fromwhat I've seen and I'm all placer so I've not went any further. If I can help ya out o even host ya herein the northern Rockies let me know. Good luck!........Rick..........
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    22 Oct 2016 06:37 AM

    Hello Rick WIlliams!  Thank you for your input.  I would absolutely like to claim my own land, after I spend some more time getting familiar with the producing gold areas I probably will.  I have a couple programs I will be using (footprints and Gold Maps online)  they are great resources for finding out current land information.  I would be interested in making up some kind of arrangements with you for mining eachother's claims.  Mine is in Yavapai County in Northern AZ, by the Bradshaw Mountains.  I am currently on the east coast, but we need to keep in touch for when I get back out west.  

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    22 Oct 2016 06:42 AM

    @Rick WIlliams(again)      Yes, I do agree with the MT claims that are for sale.  The ores are amazing!  They seem pretty legitimate, and for the price you really cant go wrong.  I am interested in placer and lode.  I would love to be able to come across a rich vein and crush out some free milling gold.  It seems like people make out pretty well with that.  But I would certainly need to be able to take a couple samples from any mine to have assayed before purchase.  

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    22 Oct 2016 06:19 PM
    hi mark, You bet, let me know when you'll be back out and we can for fromthere. I can't get to minw until mothers day or so. My claims are on Eagle Creek by Murray ID . In fact Wyatt Earp and family also owned 8 claims on the river in thelate 1880's or so. My neighbor sys that a big part of my one claimand his used to belong to the earps. Just an fyi ifyour into history also find a paper back book clled Wyatt Earp and Coeur d'Alene Gold tellsya all about my immedidate area. Hope to talk ta ya later........Rick...........
    Robert Murata
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    31 Jul 2019 03:00 PM
    I have purchased one claim online, however I did significant research, Checked all the information online with the BLM, USFS, minedata, and I physically walked the claim markers, sampled in at least 6 locations. In addition I checked all the old claims within area and made sure there was no older claim recorded that is active or if they area has been withdrawn for prospecting.

    I have owned this claim now for about 2 months, and have recovered just under 22 grams(about 20 5 gallon buckets of unclassified material) in 3 days of long hard work.

    Here is an article about one of these companies that sells all over the West, they no longer advertise any claims in Utah, read the link below:

    http://archive.vcstar.com...3266-351766951.html/

    I also notice that on EBay same claims are being sold all the time, be careful

    This is company i use to locate claims for me and purchase.

    https://brodec.biz/

    Thanks
    Christopher Satkowski
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    01 Aug 2019 06:08 PM
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    Posted By Robert Murata on 31 Jul 2019 03:00 PM
    I have purchased one claim online, however I did significant research, Checked all the information online with the BLM, USFS, minedata, and I physically walked the claim markers, sampled in at least 6 locations. In addition I checked all the old claims within area and made sure there was no older claim recorded that is active or if they area has been withdrawn for prospecting.

    I have owned this claim now for about 2 months, and have recovered just under 22 grams(about 20 5 gallon buckets of unclassified material) in 3 days of long hard work.

    Here is an article about one of these companies that sells all over the West, they no longer advertise any claims in Utah, read the link below:

    http://archive.vcstar.com...3266-351766951.html/

    I also notice that on EBay same claims are being sold all the time, be careful

    This is company i use to locate claims for me and purchase.

    https://brodec.biz/

    Thanks
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    Your results of an internet claim producing 22 grams in two months are not typical. I am sure you did good research before buying it, which most don't do good research until they've found the claim they purchased for $5k + is not worth the fees it would take to renew it the next year. I think you have yourself a success story with potential.
    Robert Murata
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    01 Aug 2019 06:21 PM
    The company i purchased from is local and has office with employees. Who is paying 5k for a mining claim, I am not? That’s crazy. Not sure 22 grams is a lot as you say for 36 hours of digging into hard rock and bedrock. One nugget was just under 5 grams, rest pin head size.

    I start at sunrise and stop at sunset, and I miss stated it should have read classified, and then take home, use Keene mini sluice and the blue bowl to pull all the gold out, that took about 2 days

    Anyways it’s all about luck. I happen to own a claim that has two know gold occurrences on my claim that seem to weathering out the gold well with all the rain last couple of years.


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