Last Post 24 Dec 2016 07:11 PM by  Jonathan Stansberry
Building a Home made river indoors.
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Benjamin Crain
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04 Dec 2016 09:06 PM

     

    This is a pretty interesting challenge, what does it take to build a recyclable river in your own garage, be able to run materials, concentrates, and then keep the area pretty clean with low Ice build up.

     

    So we came up with a system using a Keene Sluice over a tube that recycled the water, and we found it worked better then anything we can do on the river. Get your sluice set up at the correct angle first using small wood pieces placed between the tubs and once the angle is correct start working on your water supply. We found that it took about 2-3 Sump pumps to provide river volume but to do this you need a D.C. amp. 2-3 PUMPS, a lot of hosing, and some conduit.

     

     

    This may sound difficult to some but it is actually pretty easy. The recycle pumps feed the water back into the sluice which washes out your muds. When the water gets cloudy enough you just take one hoes and pump out the dirty water and clay and do a clean out, add fresh water, and begin again.

     

    In the summer you will have the best roses and flowers you can imagine because the river soils are so rich they can make anything grow.

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    05 Dec 2016 10:29 AM

      That's cool, I built the outdoor version. It's a movable recirculating system (Kind of a Keene Mini Max wanna be). But when I want to water the dead grass, I just screw the water hose to the head and sluice with clean water in the backyard. After a few buckets of sluicing, I move it to another part of the yard. I like recirculating systems, but when the water turns to chocolate milk, that sucks. Especially with the blue bowl, I always pan off the dirt and blond sands first. It's critical with a blue bowl because you have to see what's going on. 50 mesh Gold can be sent down the drain at full throttle. That's why you mark the sides for the water levels to work with 100, 50, 30 mesh, etc.

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    05 Dec 2016 01:23 PM

     

    I am doing that very same thing at this moment in my wife's kitchen living dangerously. I have what is called the triple threat, a mackirk finish  sluice dumping into a blue bowl empting into a mini finish sluice for backup. I am running really clay bound material I crushed up in to 30 minus mesh and testing for clay separation and keeping the water clear. I have used the peroxide, tooth paste, soap which works pretty well, and then run pool clarifier that worked as well if not better and now am down to the run using the works toilet cleaner and it seems to be the best so far. I also use the wally world granular dish washer soap just pouring it in a corner of the tub in a small pile and it dissolves slowly. I am only using a single tub with about 25 gallons of water and two 500 gal. pumps. ran my table yesterday and about froze me out and today is 38 with a breeze so I will take my chance in the kitchen which will be okay as long as I have dinner ready when she gets home. only have about 15 days before she throws me out for Christmas. Thanks, Tom Glenn

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    05 Dec 2016 01:35 PM
    Here is a pic of our setup.

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    05 Dec 2016 01:43 PM
    We have learned that the new Keene Mats work 100 times better then the miners moss. If you don't have either Keene or Gold hog mats you are losing more gold then you can imagine. I will never buy miners moss again, it is garbage and loses more gold then a 2 yr old child loses salt playing with a salt shaker.
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    05 Dec 2016 02:56 PM

     

    could not get my picture to display but I don't do a lot of sluicing and when I do I use end to end calif. sluices off a trommel . if you use miners moss   you have to run a full v rubber matt under for full recovery but still a pain to clean because you either need warm water or have to dry it to get it clean. The angus mackirk work really well with a high recovery rate and 2 minutes to do a cleanup but most the time I sieve to 30 minus mesh and run all over a rp4 table and it catches it all right down to the micron stuff you need a microscope to see. I just run a 1 1/2 gal bucket of 30 minus and the water is pretty clear with The Works toilet bowl cleaner. Thanks Tom Glenn

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    05 Dec 2016 05:09 PM
    Tom,

    Livin dangerously, workin in the kitchen, more power to ya (as long as dinner is ready) LOL
    You put a lot of chemical in your cons, be real adding all sorts of things together, you could have some unexpected results
    Hope you are able to post the pic, I would like to see your setup
    Toilet bowl cleaner ?

    Benjamin,

    I 100% agree with you on the miners moss, quit using that years ago in our dredge box
    There are other types of rubber matting that works real well besides Keene or GoldHog mats, these are good products
    Best use for miners moss is lining the bottom of my trash can

    Bill
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    06 Dec 2016 10:26 AM

     

    pork chops, fried taters and cream corn did the job. I think my picture is to big so I will have to go next door and get my four year old great grand daughter to show me how. I do separate runs with different things so I don't blow my self up or make the house smell like rotten eggs. The TB cleaner has 9 percent hydro peroxide and soap and it is a pretty blue so much like the peroxide, soap, toothpaste and water formula. i did not use very much a couple squeezes in the blue bowl and a couple in the tub. my cleanup looks like it will be very god with visible gold in the box which is good cause most of this material is micron for it is tailings from a Chinese diggings but I think a Chinese tommy knocker followed me home cause I'm seeing new shadows but that's nothing for this old house. I wont run out of material anytime soon because I still have about a hundred buckets of material to run not counting 10,250 lbs of material from our claims on the diamonds that 5 of my 7 grand sons dug for me a couple years back Thanks Tom Glenn

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    06 Dec 2016 11:35 AM

     

    a picture of the sluice.

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    06 Dec 2016 02:32 PM
    This sounds like the best recipe I know for having bears come to dinner.

    "pork chops, fried taters and cream corn did the job"

    Tom,
    Do not throw out your blacks sands, from the picture alone I can see Calvanites, Tellurites, and Platinum.
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    06 Dec 2016 03:41 PM

     

    Ben you are absolutely right about the platinum and other groups and this is tailings. I don't throw any thing away and probably am walking on a million dollars worth of 1/4 " I dumped on the ground in my shed, guess  I can always  scoop it up again. Have a lot of flakes but some are coated in mercury but the glory hole is a 3 ft. test whole I dug with my little one man auger I got from harbor freight and added a 1 ft. extension, puts me one up on todd Hoffman, I drilled test holes before I dug down a 100 ft. Beef stew tonight. Thanks Tom Glenn

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    07 Dec 2016 09:48 AM
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    07 Dec 2016 09:49 AM
    figured out how to get the picture up. Tom
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    24 Dec 2016 07:11 PM
    i thank you should eat that damn baer..
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