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RONNI HISOIRE
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24 Dec 2016 12:08 PM

     Has anybody ever used the pulse 6X with any success ?

    ADAM ANDREWS
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    26 Dec 2016 01:11 PM

      Nope, but welcome to the GPAA site. I'm thinking about getting the Minelab 2300. Is the Pulse 6X better?

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    28 Dec 2016 03:47 PM
    have know idea which is better. wondering if anybody else has used one. local dive shop had it on sale.
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    30 Dec 2016 05:35 AM
    The 6x is designed to find coin relics and treasure as it's main function and not designed for working the hot soils in the goldfields for the most part. The Minelab SDC 2300 would be a better bet as it is designed to find the smallest of gold nuggets as well as the larger stuff and is very impressive in those abilities. Many of the detectors or I should say most detectors designed for coin relic use have a hard time when used trying to find gold nuggets in the goldfields simply because they were not designed for this task. That is why there are different types of detectors made by manufactures to cover gold and coin relic use.
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    31 Dec 2016 08:49 AM

     

    In side by side field comparison the garret ATX smokes them all in both price and performance. 1900 in the regular package and about 2500 in the deluxe package, not 4000 to 7000 base price and it is made in AMERICA. Tom

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    03 Jan 2017 10:09 AM
    Hello Tom, I own both and I am guessing you saw a video online or read that somewhere and with all due respect you are wrong. The Garret is a great entry level PI, but will not as you said smoke the Minelab and this is from personal testing by a person that owns both. Have you tested the ATX against the SDC 2300 or 7000 yourself? If so I would like to hear how you went about it..... Thanks.

     

     

    If I thought for one minute I could find more nuggets with the Garrett ATX it would be my sole beeper. The higher price of the Minelab units does not reflect them wanting more money, but it is due to the technology used that other detector manufactures do not have. I would again like to hear how you came to this conclusion so I can try to replicate the results myself.

     

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    04 Jan 2017 04:13 PM

     

    No video on you tube, my wife's atx against my buddies $7000 mine lab, all she had to do was go behind him and in fact to double check she broke out her tessoro lobo to confirm the hits in the mineralized soil. He walked right over the top of the best material. Only 5% of the gold in the world are nuggets and I will match her finds with anyone, proof is in the hand not the nugget that got away. Tom P.S HE PUT IT UP FOR SALE AND BOUGHT A GARRET.

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    05 Jan 2017 07:19 AM
    Operator error.... If you would like to let me do the same test I would be glad to, are you close to AZ? Like I said I have both and have done real time testing side by side and the 7000 out does the Garrett every time. Thing is the Garrett ATX is not designed to do what the 7000 does and they will not deny that and it is simple fact. I get between 6 ounces and 2 troy pounds of gold nuggets every year using Minelab detectors and if the ATX could match or beat that I would be using it. I would be more than willing to hunt one of you spots you have "cleaned out" with your ATX to show you. Not bashing the Garrett at all and it is a wonderful entry level PI, but not designed to out do the Minelab PI units and it offers customers a great option if they can not afford a high end PI. I sell many ATXs every year to folks wanting exactly that, but telling a customer it will out do a GPZ 7000 is just wrong and would lose me customers in the long run. I match the detector to the customer as not everyone need or hunts enough to buy Minelab, but for most it is the best choice. Heck go anywhere online, forums, Facebook, YouTube, etc. and see who is finding nuggets and what they hunt with.

    I like you am a Garrett dealer and some dealers out there do not have a Minelab dealership along with other manufactures and thus will push what they have to get a sale as opposed to sending them to a Minelab dealer and this has gone on forever. I as a multi line dealer take the time and test all units completely to assure I can give my customers the best and correct information before they make a huge investment and also offer training on every detector I sell and I believe if your buddy would have had proper training your short test would have gone much differently. Again not bashing you or Garrett, but you are giving out incorrect information and I can easily prove that......

    With all due respect that was not any kind of real test and your buddy made a mistake in not properly learning and setting up his 7000 if he was missing nuggets the ATX heard.

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    05 Jan 2017 08:52 AM
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    05 Jan 2017 09:33 AM

     

    SHOW ME YOURS!  Apparently we are in to different leagues we being  prospectors and you being a nugget shooter  and yes I am a garret, tessoro, fisher and tecnetics dealer but I am not trying to push a sales pitch. I can be a minelab dealer any time I want to open up my wallet and spend thousands on the entry level commitment not counting I believe  the 5,000 dollars you have to buy each year to stay a dealer. Small shops like my miners shack which is a real miners shack saved from the feds order to destroy it in a small venue find it hard to compete with say kellyco. As far as training my wife started out with a whites gmt which she struggled with till I took a piece of paper and tape and covered the screen and then put out a copper penny, 14 carat gold ring, silver dime, a nickel and a small piece of iron and told her to listen to the sounds and she has never struggled since. As far as detectors her favorite is a tessoro lobo, gold bug for steep terrain, garret at gold for the water, atx for treasure hunting, and her new favorite new toy is the fisher gemini 3 two box system which is a deep seeker that she has mastered. My detector is a gold bug that is so old that it still has a sticker with 702 reno area code on it from the nineties and low and behold the new gold bug 2 is the remake of this detector. As far as the finds, well the silver bars were derived from so ore which was just a pocket that assayed 1200 0z. a ton. We gave them away for wedding presents for our grand children but I think there were three and the dog buried one. The rest is just a sample from this year laying around the kitchen. Here is a challenge, what would you do with a I oz. nugget buried at say three ft. deep with either the minelab or the atx, absolutely nothing without digging a hole and first you need to know where to dig. The Two nuggets on the silver dollars I think came from a golden trout from gold lake ca. Tom

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    05 Jan 2017 09:38 AM
         Tom, so what are the smelted buttons Ag, Pb, Au, or a mix of metals ?          Ron
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    05 Jan 2017 10:04 AM

     

    Them and the odd shapes are of gold and silver dore that assayed around $480.00 an oz. the purest gold Is about 22 carat with most running from 75 to 80 % or about 18 carat and some of the other is platinum that I believe was created by forest fires. Tom

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    05 Jan 2017 03:13 PM

     

    Sounds like our shops are very similar as I own a old mining camp in AZ and have my shop in one of the old cabins there are 13 on the property here. That is a cool coincidence....

     

    Here are a few gold nuggets as you asked and I have many more I could show, many can be seen at my site in the gallery. Have a great day....

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    05 Jan 2017 04:46 PM

     

    Nice pieces but we don't get gold like that here. The nuggets are smooth and flat from the great glaciers of the area and 90% is 30 minus mesh and micron  and the gold in the quartz is wire , sheet or micron and lots of silver in the mix but I don't bother separating it when I smelt but any gold is a great find even if you have to use a microscope to see it. I Have more also but there is a foot of snow on the ground and the high was 27 today and I ain't going out in the back yard and dig it up. If you ever get up in God's country look me up and I will give you the challenge of tellurides,  non metallic copper ores and the nasty sulfides that we deal with here. Tom

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    05 Jan 2017 05:47 PM
    It will have to warm up allot Tom, us desert folk catch a chill around 65 degrees, but will do that if I ever get the chance....
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    06 Jan 2017 09:17 AM

     

    Today is a perfect day, five degrees this mourning and supposed to get up to 22 for the high and starting to snow. sold a pin pointer to a guy who is going to four wheel up to the five thousand ft. level and shovel out catch basins and pipes where a couple of days ago the stream came flowing down in a gusher when it rained on the snow, we have a hardy bunch here. Tom

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    06 Jan 2017 09:43 AM
    LOL I think 100 and bright sun more on the perfect level and 117 is pretty common here in summer and we don't get out much then, ahhhh but today will be 62 and near 70 over the weekend and will be out swinging... Have a great weekend
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    06 Jan 2017 09:48 AM

     

    Been there and done that, had a place in Tucson for a long time and once spent a summer there. love the heat as well, used to be a paving contractor, stood in 300 degree mix all day long. you as well have a great weekend. Tom

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    12 Feb 2017 03:09 PM

    I am new to this forum (this being my first post on it), but I am not new to metal detecting for gold, and have been successful doing it for about 15-years here in Arizona.  I own and swing a Minelab GP3000, and would Not own any other detector.  And for anyone who is Serious about participating in this hobby,-sport,-challenge, or whatever else you want to label it, I recommend, (as Bill Southern has also recommended) that a Minelab is the Right choice when choosing a reliable and field-tested metal detector for Gold prospecting.  I bought mine New, right out of the box for about $3200.00 (back then), and it has (to-date) paid for itself at least 5-times over in Gold nugget recovery.  I also know for a fact that this same model (although an older model) can still be purchased on other forums from individual owners, or minelab dealers (as a resale) for between $1200.00 to $1500.00.  Believe me, those are very good prices for this Gold-getting-detector.  "But will it find me Gold", as I am sure you are asking????  That of course is contingent-on many variable factors:  your time in the field (boots on the ground), your experience with it, and knowledge of it's abilities, ground conditions, being able to read-a-wash, and understand the mechanics of gold-placement due to water movements, erosion, subsidence, and many other factors.    

     

    As an example, I snagged these 5-nuggets with my Minelab  yesterday and today.  The two big ones where down between 18" to 20" deep in a very rocky-boulder-ladened wash.  And each of them where in a separate little catch-pocket.  The large round nugget weighed in at 3.24 grams while the pendant-shaped large one weighed 3.19 grams.  So, the total weight for all-5-nuggets is 7.62 grams, which (according to my calculations) is right at .155 grams "Shy" of there being a quarter ounce.  So, the gold is still there to be found; the question is:  are you willing to invest and own, get acquainted-with, and learn-to-use the Right metal detector to find Gold???  If NO, that's alright too, ...it just leaves more gold for Bill, Me, and other Minelab-swingers to find.   ...SORRY, I'm New here, So my photo's are a bit scattered "throughout" .  Gary

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    12 Feb 2017 08:56 PM
    Nice work Gary. Ok 1 answer you left out....you speak very highly of the GP3000....but explain why it is better that a GPX 4500 or even a GPZ7000?





    Also what kind of coils are you using on it and did you find all those nuggets while using "only" that 1 coil?




    Also, what type of coils are you using and which were you using when you found these nuggets? Also, how deep was the smallest nugget? That would give me some useful info to compare. Regards
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    13 Feb 2017 06:29 PM

     

    My post was a response-to a post by Tom Glenn, (although it did not show up under his post, as I wanted it to).  He stated:   

    "In side by side field comparison the garret ATX smokes them all in both price and performance. 1900 in the regular package and about 2500 in the deluxe package, not 4000 to 7000 base price and it is made in AMERICA. Tom"

     

    So, it was not my intention to imply that my GP3000 was, nor is superior -to the Minelabs: 3500, the 4000, the 4500, the 5000, nor the 7000.  I was simply indicating that he is wrong about garret ATX smoking all other detectors in both price and performance.  As my post states, even a GP3000 (which obviously does not have "all the bells and whistles" that the newer version Minelabs have from the 3500 up to the 7000 models) can be purchased for between $1200 to $1500.  And my photos of freshly-found-nuggets should have indicated what is "Realistic" about the reliability and performance of this series of Minelab detector.  QUESTION 2:   I was using the Nugget Finder Evolution 14" Elliptical coil; and YES, I found "EACH-AND-EVERY-ONE" of the nuggets that I photo'd with that same coil.  QUESTION 3:  The three smaller nuggets where "each" down approx. 5" deep in "different"-bedrock cracks, which I had to dig out with a small icepick.  This actually amazed me when I found the smallest nugget (about .14 of a gram wt.) --that this large of a coil would actually pick up a sub-gram nugget with a fairly noticeable signal at a depth of 5"!!  Normally I would us a Coiltek Joey for open and exposed bedrock.        The two large nuggets where laying (each one) deep in a "separate"-pocket where the ridge of one hill met up with the ridge of an adjacent hill forming a "V" at the bottom.  They where both sunk deep in cracks in the bedrock  bottom, which was roughly 18" to 24" deep (I didn't have a tape measure, so that's approx.).  And it definitely took some hard-ass digging to get to them, but each signal was strong and definite.  There was actually no sand in the wash at all; it was literally full of rocks of all shapes and sizes, some boulders, dark brown mud (dried) dirt, all of which had been "compacted" over time and due (I'm sure) to the mechanics of the many monsoon rains over time.  If I wouldn't have had a good pick, I wouldn't have been able to even get close-to these.  Hope this answers your questions.  Gary   

     

     

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    I have to ask are you missing  the type of material on the left of my photo that leads to the pieces in the center that were 3 ft. deep and the Dore that was produced on the right by finding the mineralized soil in the beginning and all by using a 1990 gold bug. Sorry but looks like a sales pitch to me to meet that $5,000.00 deductible for being a mine lab dealer and I don't know but for some reason I think I have seen those pieces before, maybe my imagination.  My claim owning neighbor that has a $7,000.00 mine lab he basically finds useless in our heavy mineralized soil be cause he does not know what signal, whistle or bell to follow. Missing a whole mountain of gold seems fruitless and digging a 20" hole and throwing that material behind you for one little nugget well sounds fruitless as well. So to all of you that have that detector that cost less than a grand and especially those old gold bug owners which is now the new gold bug 2 just get your magnifier out, your walking over a fortune. 

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    I guess you answered my question, will the mine lab detect the fine gold in heavy mineralized soil and the answer is no. But the Tessoro Lobo, Gold Bug 2 and the AT Gold and some others  will up to 12" deep with out special coils  all costing $800.00 or less, especially the Lobo. I consider myself a purest in that I believe all you need is a pan, pick and shovel to prospect but don't get me wrong my wife is the detectorist but its about a lot more especially the geology and formations that she can read like the back of her hand. I on the other hand can smell it out just by the look of soils, and by literally smelling the soil to see if it has large amounts of organic matter that tells you whether the ground has been worked before or is  new deposited by new flood waters slides or what ever mother nature through at it, an old 49'er trick. This year there will be more than ever enough to go around especially in calif. Tom

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    16 Feb 2017 09:21 PM

     

    The 5-nuggets that I posted (on my 1st post on this forum) I had "just-found" a day-or-two before I posted the photos.  And the only way you would have seen them before?? is "IF"  you where a member of two-gold forums, which I had also posted them on (Arizonaoutback, and Nuggetfinder (Bill Southern's gold forum) here in Arizona.  Secondly, I am not a dealer in mining equipment of any type, so my comments where not a sales pitch.  I swing a Minelab detector, and have been successfully finding gold nuggets for well over 15-years down here In ARIZONA where the ground mineralization is "well known" to not only exist, but to be the plague of anyone who runs a VLF detector, or any other detector that is not set up to handle and overcome our heavy mineralized ground.    

     

    As for your claim owning neighbor, he's most likely like "many" who purchase detectors and Not-really-know-how-to-use-them, nor take the time to learn the machine.  But instead blame the detector.   

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    17 Feb 2017 08:00 AM

     

    You answered my question completely, you can not find fine gold that leads to bigger pieces that leads to mother lode deposits and if the piece is of a certain size and below you don't pick it up. Your back pack must be big to carry all those extra coils and maybe a laptop to reprogram every time the ground changes. Tom

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    27 Mar 2017 08:24 PM
    C'mon guys, I have just started posting here to gain knowledge from both Tom and Bill and others. Not read about pissing matches. Stop and smell the roses... or sage brush... or trumpet plants... whatever your fancy. I have been posting on Treasurenet (metaldetecting.com) since the early '70s. Yet I still troll these forums for more info. Take care, guys.  TTC


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