Detecting In Arizona
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Alex PrattUser is Online
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17 Nov 2016 11:50 AM

    Good afternoon from Arizona,

    I am a resident of Tucson and have been here my whole life.  I went down by Arivaca and got lucky and found about 9 grams in about 3 hours.  I have been on a dry streak and need to get wet again.  I want to try detecting in a more prosperous area.  Can anybody recommend some claims in Arizona preferably SOUTH of Flagstaff that have been know to produce detectable nuggets?  I am brand new to GPAA and still learning the ropes and protocol and mojo.  Everyone who digs for gold always seems willing to help if people would just ask.  So that's what I am doing.  You can always private message me on my Email (theace115@gmail.com) if you don't want to publicly share your favorite claim,  but I just need help getting out of my funk.

     

    Thank you in Advance, and stay safe out there.

     

     

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    17 Nov 2016 11:57 AM
    Hi Alex,
    Nice find....you found 9 grams with the detector? I was just wondering if you did do that with the detector, how many individual pieces and how deep were they? Is this surface finds? What kind of detector?
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    Leo
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    17 Nov 2016 12:08 PM
    Hello Leo,

    if you click on my profile picture, those are the nuggets. I found the smaller of them on/in bedrock. I found the 8.1 grammer on the bank in the same area. They were close to the surface (~3" under). I was using a GPX 5000. You are not the same Lorenz as Lorenz metal detectors out of Germany? Just a Coincidence?
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    17 Nov 2016 12:22 PM
    Oh yeah they look great. Ok well i guess they could have been found with any VLF as well...ie GoldBug. Gee, i never knew they had detectors....but I know I am not part of that organization...although the family does come from the area. Maybe its a genetic thing...why I am interested in detecting huh? I will have to check out their products! I never detected in AZ but looking to do so sometime soon.....Still looking for my first nuggets.
    Leo
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    18 Nov 2016 04:49 AM
    These Lorenz detectors are the best of the best when it comes to PI DEEP seeking detectors. they're anywhere from 6k to 10k USD.
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    18 Nov 2016 06:21 AM

    Alex,

    Seriously?? Better than the Minelab? Are they made for gold finding as well. I know Germany makes very high quality products but never thought they would produce metal detectors. Do they have gold in Germany?

    Leo
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    18 Nov 2016 06:53 AM
    These detectors are great for finding deep big targets like Muonionalusta Meteorites. I do not know if they have any "Minelab Style" metal detectors
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    13 Dec 2016 08:22 AM
    I'm currently in East Tucson , Very new to all of this.. But ready to learn and go out and have fun..

    anyone in the area looking to teach someone a few things on finding gold .. I"m available

    Hit me up .. if you'd like to go out and do some prospecting.. travel via UTV .. makes for a fun day
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    14 Dec 2016 08:10 AM
    I am not near my claims guide, but if we still have claims near Greaterville it is a good area. Lots of trash, but also big gold.
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    15 Jan 2017 09:50 PM

     

    Which claim were you on down by Arivaca- Las Guijas Mts?

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    15 Jan 2017 09:54 PM

     

    I'm in Tucson, also.  Where do you like to go? I have a high banker & a Gold Bug Pro.

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    16 Jan 2017 03:49 AM

    Bob,

    How do you like the Gold Bug Pro? Mine seems to be noisy when lifting or touching the coil to the ground, after its been balanced. What sensitivity level do you mostly work within? That is probably my issue.....but I was always thinking that cutting back on the sensitivity would affect the depth, but now I know that is not quite true. I had been using it up in the 60-70 range. The ground that you run yours in is probably much more mineralized than what I see up in Nevada. But I am interested on what you see performance wise with yours.

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    16 Jan 2017 07:47 PM

     

     Yes we have very hot rocks & ground. I try to keep mine set at a low hum so that even a small piece of gold will set it off, but so does every thing else. I try to hear the right sound. Disc mode cuts too much of the sensitivity, in my opinion. I play test with some small pieces of gold so I will know how to set it & what listen for. I still haven't figured what the numbers represent!?

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    16 Jan 2017 08:12 PM
    Hmmm okayyyy.....but what number do you set the sensitivity to? When you say that you have not "figured out what the numbers represent" which numbers are you speaking about? There are numbers for the ground balance......when you first turn it on and have it in the air, there will be a number showing which represents the "ground reference" and bringing the coil closer to the ground, the ground reading will change,....and lifting or dropping the coil in reference to the ground will cause a sound to increase or decrease. But the sensitivity setting is independent of that. Usually a good target will register lower on the scale than the ground reference number, and if it is iron or something undesirable....the reading will go higher than the nominal ground balance setting. Wondering how you can use it if you are not familiar with the numbers??
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    17 Jan 2017 08:16 AM

    I've played with the sensitivity & found that its best around the 12:00 (or halfway). If I turn it up all the way it drains the battery quicker.  The numbers on the screen which represent the ground or what ever you run the coil over. Most of the time it stays around 78 + or -.

    The all metal knob I turn up as high as I can before it starts buzzing constantly. I figure that will give me the most sensitivity. I seems to work when I test it with some grains of gold. Hope all that makes sense. Am I doing it right?

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    17 Jan 2017 12:44 PM
    No i do not think you are. When you first turn it on...with the left power knob......you go over to the "all metal" knob and slowly increase the knob clockwise until you just hear the buzzing at a comfortable minimum level. This has nothing to do with the sensitivity. Then you go back to the power knob and as you increase clockwise.....you are now setting the sensitivity....which is the "gain". You will see the number on the display change the moment the knob gets moved....and the reading changes up to 100 which is the max gain. ( which I dont think you would ever run at ) This is the only adjustment which controls the overall sensitivity of the machine. Then from there you need to ground balance with the - or + push buttons and the numbers switch from sensitivity level to ground balance.....when you put the coil to the ground.....the reading will be the ground....when you pick it up....the number will change.....you want to adjust that until the "air" number matches the "ground" number.........Or you can pump the coil up and down while listening for "minimum change" when lifting or dropping to the ground...........as you move along on the ground the soil mineralization can change so you have to also keep adjusting as you move along. If you change the sensitivity/gain on the left....you will have to rebalance to ground......And the most important thing is.....if you find it difficult to ground balance.......then you need to lower the sensitivity/gain until the machine is stable...............Forget about "discriminate" .....you want to dig it all.
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    17 Jan 2017 09:10 PM
    Right o. I said sensitivity for the right knob (disc/all metal) because as you continue to turn it to the right, at some time it will continue to increase the buzzing louder & louder. I didn't mention ground balancing, of course I do that. Its not so much that I want to dig it all, but I think it looses too much sensitivity (theres that word again) in disc mode. All this I have confirmed by checking it over some small gold. If it doesn't buzz on the gold then what good is it. I have another cheaper detector that can find all the junk I want. I leave it at home any more. Thanks for helping me confirm that I'm doing it right. Do you have a Gold Bug Pro, also? How do you like it?
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    18 Jan 2017 04:14 AM
    Yes I have a GB Pro too and been using it for about a year only in northern Nevada. It doesnt have a volume knob, but the threshhold setting is like one almost....by turning it higher it will only give more noise.....but yes.... allowing a change in the noise to be amplified more. But that doesn't give the detector increased sensitivity, in the true sense of electronic processing. I do like it regardless, but because it is a VLF, it does have issues running it in highly mineralized soil, which most advise, to turn the sensitivity down.....but when doing that I will lose depth. And then i start wondering what am I missing by running at those settings. Thats why having a second detector like a PI is needed, too run over that same ground.......but geez...double work maybe for no reason because there may not be any gold at all.... But no one every says that its gonna be easy to find.
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    18 Jan 2017 06:17 PM

     

    Yea, I think if I had Minelab I wouldn't use the GB pro. Maybe some day. My latest project is building a rock crusher. I have some hot rocks that I want to see whats in them. Maybe some gold, who knows. I picked them up by Campo Bonito where a lot of gold has been mined. All in a days work.

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    24 Jan 2017 11:03 AM

    Campo Bonito  has been good to me, but it is a desert diggers claim ,not GPAA.

     

    Bill Southern, the R double j claim is a good area in Add to dictionary, stay on the bedrock, if you do not mind hiking you will end up along the old Pennsylvania  placers where hydraulic mining was done, pipes still lying on the ground.(not a GPAA claim - open) you can also find sucker gulch, Boston gulch and several other areas that were mined 150 years ago.

     

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