how do we get more proporties?
Last Post 06 Jan 2017 12:19 PM by ARTHUR WAUGH. 9 Replies.
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Travis NixUser is Offline
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16 Nov 2016 09:45 AM

    hey Kevin,

    I know new properties / claims  get introduced to the GPAA every so often, How do we get more in an area?

    I live up in northern Nevada, famous rye patch area, home to large commercial gold mining companies, multiple gold bearing counties all crammed together.. how could we get the gpaa to seek more claims in the area?   I know you have been in the area a few times out rye patch and the temple1 gpaa claim ( surprised the gpaa doesn't have a claim in the famous rye patch area) and the 7 other claims up in wadswoth 150 miles from here, but there are sooo many areas that could be potential claim for the gpaa. just a thought. I have been working on opening a new chapter and I think it might strike the attention of newcomers if there was a pick and choose of a few different options or places to go.. any insight would be great.. thanks

    ARTHUR WAUGHUser is Offline
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    16 Nov 2016 12:20 PM

    Most all GPAA claims are owned by private individuals like you and I.  The claim owner will enter into a contract with GPAA that allows access to the claim or claims, in return for considerations from GPAA.  Won't go into those, will let someone else do that if they choose.  Has been addressed elsewhere on the forum.  GPAA then lists those claims in the guide for the members use.  Short version of the process.

     

    They are always looking to aquire access to more claims/properties.  If you have or know someone, they would be interested in looking over the ground and see about adding it to the base.

    OHV/Recreation Representative, John Day/Snake Resource Advisory Council, BLM--- President, Wolfpack 4x4's, Region 5, Pacific Northwest 4 Wheel Drive Association--- Member- Mid Valley Prospectors, Brownsville, OR chapter GPAA, Willamette Valley Miners, Bohemia Mine Owners Association
    KEVIN HOAGLANDUser is Offline
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    16 Nov 2016 01:20 PM
    Travis,
    File a claim or two or three, what a great opportunity to get a new chapter started off in the right direction. The GPAA has a couple of different programs for claims with the most popular being the “Share a Claim” program.

    In the case of a budding GPAA Chapter I would rally your troops and head out in search of a couple of claims. It is great learning experience as well in teaching the proper methods of prospecting for locatable minerals all the way through the process of filing a claim.

    Once located and filed you can contact the GPAA office, Richard Robinson or myself in getting the claim into the program. We cover the ongoing filing fees and will most likely ask you to do a Chapter outing to perform assessment work on the claim to qualify it for the BLM Small Miners Exemption program.

    I hope that you will take advantage of the ideas and start a Chapter along with getting some claims in the area. given your area, it is a win-win for everyone. Feel free to contact myself or Richard if you have any questions what so ever about the programs and absolutely talk to Richard if you haven’t already about starting a Chapter at the Patch….

    See you out there.
    I'll see you, out there!
    MICHAEL GOETTINAUser is Offline
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    22 Dec 2016 06:24 PM
    they do not like claims with gold on them the ldma site in tonopah has no claim markers and the book is no good it will not get you to the claim but i have got gold at rye patch just picked it up off the ground more that once now that was cool and big fish in the lake
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    03 Jan 2017 07:25 PM

     

    Yep that is how to do it as an organization, do some field work and research to help get more claims into the book. I always get a chuckle when a few bash  leadership for doing nothing, but when you ask them how they are helping and they simply are not. Working together is what makes an organization great and getting more claims requires some working together right? Heck there are still areas we could be working on and some of the Arizona chapters as well as others are doing just that. Some do not like change, but things have changed for the American miner for the worst and the GPAA as well as other organizations are working as best they can, but what does one do when the law is not enforced by the court? Ya keep fighting.... Anyway back to claims, do some research and locate some promising areas and get them in the book, it is actually quite fun.

    Brad LambUser is Offline
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    04 Jan 2017 07:35 AM
    Pray, do a rain dance, only pick up head's up pennies, toss spill salt over your left shoulder.....

    Yes, Bill, working together is great, but, without strong leadership, it will lead to chaos. There are many strong and smart people on here...who need to be lead in the right direction with strong guidance and a plan of attack.

    I fully volunteer to assist in anyway that i can to help get more properties east of the Mississippi...with guidance from someone who has a good record of results. I am not one who appreciates wasted time and effort.

    I am so disappointed and quite angry over the pillaging of the "special spot" found at loud mine 2 outings ago and how it all was off limits and then dredged up without any of the pay being left for the members. I was personally told by the former caretaker that I could not dredge or sample in the pit beyond Town Creek....apparently he took care of that. I do not know if HQ (Temecula) knew about this or not. Rumor has it that over 50oz were pulled from that area in a month or so in late 2015 to early 2016. The whole action at Loud over the last 18 mos (with the exception of William "Crock" and Stephanie) has me fed up.

    Unless LDMA/GPAA does something for the members east of MS, I am out.
    Reach out to your Senators and Representatives and let them know you are in support of mining rights and opening up areas to small scale mining! ~Augusta, GA GPAA~ ~LDMA~
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    04 Jan 2017 09:02 AM

       Wow Brad... I've seen this movie before (Treasure of the Sierra Madre)... When they find the Gold, they take it all and tell no one. Screwing the members who paid good money to be there also.

     

       I have commented maybe too many times that there's no (0) zero leadership here. And whether or not 'we' renew our memberships depends on what the GPAA says and does.

     

        If the GPAA's answer is nothing...Then that's what they'll get back in return...Nothing.

    Brad LambUser is Offline
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    06 Jan 2017 04:00 AM
    My post surprised me too...but, I will not edit it until someone provides some factual data of what happened and why.
    Reach out to your Senators and Representatives and let them know you are in support of mining rights and opening up areas to small scale mining! ~Augusta, GA GPAA~ ~LDMA~
    RONALD PETERSONUser is Offline
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    06 Jan 2017 11:45 AM

         Having worked a few private lands WEST of the Mississippi there seems to be some common concerns among land owners.  So put yourself in their shoes when asking permission to use their land and remember this, it only takes one person to do something stupid and it's game over for everyone.

         Here are some of the minor things that land owners have said to me, " Just make sure you close the gate when you come in and out ", "Don't tare up my gravel road by racing up and down it ", " No shooting guns ", " Stay away from or keep out of this area ", " don't leave any trash or make a mess ".  Some don't allow drinking, while others offer you a drink.  Sometimes the land owner will ask for help doing something and that's a fair exchange.

         The major concerns have been fear of me accidentally starting a fire or I get hurt and sue them.  Now I am just one person, so multiply that fear by 100 people coming on to their land and you can understand them being reluctant to give permission to a group or club.  So what safe guards can we put in place to give the land owner peace of mind and / or whats in it for the land owner to make it win win for all ?  There are of course other concerns that land owners have and I just put forth some of the more common ones off the top of my head.

         I do know that respect for the land owner's property opens doors.  For example I was doing some metal detecting and this guy drives up, stops and starts talking to me.  He tells me that he owns a farm down the road and that there was a tavern on property that burnt down in the 50s and then asks, would you like to run your machine over the area ?  I said YES and he said show up tomorrow morning.  The next day he shows me where the tavern use to be and I went to work.  At the end of the day I knocked on his door, showed him what I found and told him to pick the find he liked best.  He tells me that's okay, you can keep everything and then he walks over to where I detected and looked around.  I had left no holes and no trash laying around.  He then says come back tomorrow and he would show me where the old homestead stood.  I believe that I had been tested and he saved the best for last.          Ron    

    ARTHUR WAUGHUser is Offline
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    06 Jan 2017 12:19 PM
    And after a few trips on his place, and he sizes you up, venture to ask if he knows of other spots in the area.  He probably does, and can open the door to those owners by vouching for you, or taking you over and making introductions. 
    OHV/Recreation Representative, John Day/Snake Resource Advisory Council, BLM--- President, Wolfpack 4x4's, Region 5, Pacific Northwest 4 Wheel Drive Association--- Member- Mid Valley Prospectors, Brownsville, OR chapter GPAA, Willamette Valley Miners, Bohemia Mine Owners Association
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