CRAPY CLAMES NO GOLD BUT ALLWAS GET THE BILL
Last Post 11 Feb 2018 06:48 AM by James Lenfers. 46 Replies.
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26 Oct 2016 04:18 PM
    BIN TO OVER 40 GPAA CLAMS IN THE CLAMS BOOK AND 8 LDMA  OVER WORKED AND CRAPPY GOLD OK FOR CAMPING BUT AS FAR AS FOR GOLD YA RIGHT AND AS FOR THE MINING GUILD   NEVER GOT A NEW ONE FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS NOW BUT ALL-WAY GET THE BILL
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    27 Oct 2016 05:40 AM

    Have to agree with you. Worst $155 I've ever spent for a membership. At least here on the E. Wa. and N. Idaho areas.  I think a person is better off to join a local prospecting club.

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    27 Oct 2016 06:50 AM

    Well, for starters I have been to several claims over the years, and have always found gold, even when just running a few sample pans.  Granted you are not going to get an oz. from them when you hit them.  Had you ever tried contacting the office on the guide issues?  It almost sounds like you expect the gold to either be on the surface, or someone to hand it to you already processed and in a vial.  The learning curve is steep, and anything you find is that much more valuable due to the effort required to find it and get it out.

     

    If you are so unhappy with GPAA and LDMA memberships then I might suggest that it is time to find another endevor, and put the memberships on the market and move on.

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    27 Oct 2016 04:29 PM

      I agree Art, "The learning curve is steep"...Really steep, like in my greenhorn days, we found nothing. Then the challenge became, don't get skunked. We did dumb stuff like hauling buckets of dirt up steep trails, then driving them 100 miles home just to get two pieces of fly poop Gold. After you're a Sourdough miner, the challenge is out smarting the Gold and getting it in the vial.

     

        If there's kids all standing around looking in your sluice box, toss your 1 oz. nugget in the sluice box. When they see the giant nugget, they'll all run to their parents for a camping plate then they'll all go pan for Gold with them. It drives them nuts, and gets them out of your sluice box.

     

     

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    27 Oct 2016 05:05 PM

    LMAO, if I had a 1 oz nugget, it would be triple locked in a safe, not in my pocket in the field.  

     

    Late wife's first outing was with the neighbor, she had a pie tin and the collander from the kitchen.  Dug behind a rock, panned it out found a nice picker, went to the neighbor and asked if that was what she was supposed to be looking for.  He said yep.  Went back to her rock, panned some more and went back to verify the second picker.  He got up said I've been her 3 days and not a speck.  Told his wife to throw everything in the trailer, they were going home.  20 minutes later they were gone..........

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    27 Oct 2016 09:18 PM

      I once saw a guy crash his radio controlled airplane into his other radio controlled airplane. The other airplane was about 25' behind him...Destroyed them both...Then he violently threw both of the airplane remains into the back of his Volvo station wagon. Smashing the rear door on a wing until it closed. He then peeled out, raced out of the flying area...Never to be seen again.

     

      It was the funniest thing I've ever seen...It would have been the $10,000 winner on Americas funniest home videos. Too bad I didn't film it. 

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    29 Oct 2016 09:07 PM
    This is a game of wanting to learn as much as possible .I as one how has been doing this for many years .I was 5 or6 when I started panning wit my dad .There are still many days that nothing was found .I did it just today after running 4 5 gallons of dirt .It is the hunt that counts .And yes I am in gold country right now .There is no guarantee in mining .Thats the fun of it .
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    31 Oct 2016 03:55 PM
    I didnt think LDMA members got a GPAA mining guide.
    The OP was complaining in the members area "he never got a MG"

    Yes no maybe ?

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    31 Oct 2016 04:03 PM
         Yes Bill, LDMA members get a mining guide just like GPAA members do.         Ron
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    31 Oct 2016 04:57 PM
    LDMA includes lifetime GPAA membership.
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    01 Nov 2016 06:36 AM
    If there was no guide sent to you, you can call the office and have them look into it. We have records as to if it was sent to a member, if not and you are up to date I am sure customer service will help you. If a guide is sent out and it shows that it was received you should have called so it could be traced. In some cases you may have to pay for a new one, you just have to call and see. By all accounts there should be something new soon but not sure when I know it is in the works for information through the web site. I guess you could also see what sill be coming out.
    If you notice an error in the Online Mining Guide or with claim information please add in the updated information into the online mining guide to inform other members. Thank You Walter H. Eason
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    30 Mar 2017 03:32 PM
    I feel your frustration, when I was new at prospecting I would get so frustrated that I would spend days looking for gold and not finding it. It took me  a year to finally figure out techniques which started showing results. As far as claims go, any club claim for all the different clubs out there are going to be mostly worked. I usually try to go to claims which are difficult for people to get to especially claims which require a very reliable and capable 4wd. I have been finding gold on these claims just not more than little micro flakes here and there. I just try to refine my techniques  and adapt to these highly worked claims and my results are improving each time, in fact I always find gold every time I go out, but 90% of the time it's just really fine powder gold. Just be patient.
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    31 Mar 2017 09:04 AM
    Yeah gold prospecting is fun. And it gets me out of this damn city. I will happily take the few pickers and the few flakes I find. Got me a new Garrett metal detector. Mabey I can increase my finding. However I am just glad to be out of the city.
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    02 Apr 2017 06:59 PM
    Ok, I am an LDMA member which means I am also a LIFETIME GPAA member. I get mining guides when they come out, the last was in July 2014. I have access to the online guide. I find gold on every claim LDMA or GPAA. I go too. Sometimes not much, 1/8 gram or so, sometimes, 2-3 grams. If you are not finding gold on these claims, I would appreciate you sharing where you are finding gold please. If you really are not happy I for one will be sorry to see you go, but do not renew if you don't feel it isworth it. We all work to hard to Pay for things we get no value from.
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    27 Apr 2017 09:05 PM
    I've been at it for awhile and never really get alot "YET", but I'm learning. I watch YouTube videos, especially Jeff Williams videos. He has alot on knowledge from working and collecting information from the "Old Timers" not to mention he also holds a degree in geology. Yes his videos can be crazy, but he's also after educating the younger generation. The most important thing I do when I work a claim is to SAMPLE, if I find gold and I've got limited time and stay and work the spot. I'll usually check the cons in half an hour or so, if they still good then I'll commit and bust my ass. My other secret weapon is my bucket vac, nothing like finding someones diggings and vacuuming the cracks in the bed rock that they didn't, that one always pays off. I also like to hard to reach locations, most people want to park setup and run the same spot. I realize that these secrets of mine are nothing to most of the seasoned prospectors on this site, but in time I should develop pretty consistent gold producing outings.
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    27 Apr 2017 09:58 PM
    Unless you are running a large mining operation you are not going to get 10, 20 or 30 ounces a week anywhere. If your work hard, run 6 to 8 hours a day e dry day with a dredge,highbanker or dry washer you can get an 1/2 ounce it even a full ounce a week in a lot of the in the Muning Guide. There is a steep learning curve, it also requires work, but oh how sweet when you finish clean up and you gave that gold no one has seen since God put it there.
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    28 Apr 2017 09:06 PM
    Well I haven't been at as many claims as Michael but I have been at a number of them, what I have found is they are about as well used as any club claim and no worse. I belong to 4 other clubs in two states and the results are about the same. Very tough going! This is not a get rich game, I figure it is another way to enjoy the outdoors and it is as expensive as your pocket book will allow or as economical as you want to work at making it. Honestly finding the gold is a bonus and to do it consistently you have to do a lot of research or go with someone that has. If you are in it for the gold and not the enjoyment best to get outfit not then invest in the research to learn how to read the land and your odds mock likely will improve. Good luck!
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    29 Apr 2017 12:07 PM
    I am a new lifetime LDMA member and I never received a MG either, but never really gave it a thought.
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    29 Apr 2017 03:22 PM

    Jeremy, If you have not received your mining guide, just give Ann or Jenn a call at the main office. All you have to do is give them your address and they will send out the 2014 mining guide to you. 

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    10 May 2017 06:35 AM
    I used to get frustrated but after much trial and error I have been able to better determine where the higher concentrations of gold should settle in a river, I have also improved my recovery efforts and as such my results are beginning to improve. AS an example, I was out last week at a new location. We dug the first decent looking spot we came to with zero results after about an hours effort. We stopped , analyzed the location and the river, moves about 50 years and boom....first bucket produced gold!

    as far as the mining guide, its on line, no need to wait for a book.....

    Good luck
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    12 May 2017 08:32 PM
    If I had been to 40 "clams" and never found gold, 1st I'd start going to "claims". And then I would take a good hard look at myself and admit I wasn't a very good prospector.
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    15 May 2017 04:03 PM
    Clark hit the nail on the head,,,, I have Been doing the Gold thing for 50 years and heard most all "Newbie bitching" reasons you can hear about No gold I can stand But this wins the prize . 1st get you a panning bag or two and a Home depot tub,,,And a person that Realy knows how to pan then let him show you how to pan . Then wear that bag out over and over panning to you are tired of it . Then ask the person that showed you how to pan go to several caims where you did not find gold and show you how again . Some can find gold right off the bat,, some need help bad . Get some help quick . It's hard to jump right in and find gold each and every time but 40 claims,,,,, No way . Get the bags and tub with help to show you how to pan . Good Luck,,,Miner Mike .
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    16 May 2017 05:26 PM
    You mean the gold aint layin right on the ground ?!?!?
    I have to work for it ?!?!?
    So much river....So little time....Get out there
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    17 May 2017 06:07 AM
    The old truth Gold mining starts at the pan and ends at the pan. Learn to pan and you will find gold.
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    17 May 2017 01:45 PM
    I have had good days and bad days,, some days i found gold,, other days i just moved alot of dirt. Thats life, if your never finding anything, then its time to try new tactics, or a new hobby. I was at gold and gem grubbing last week, after 60 buckets,,,, no gold, not even a spec,, but the gems were more than jumping. The folks next to us, didnt find any good gems but they did find some nice flakey gold. Its a crap shoot, you ether love doing this or you dont.
    Sorry to hear that your having a difficult time
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    18 May 2017 07:12 AM
    I worked a small wash that had been vacuumed down to bedrock. I took my small hand sledgehammer and cracked the top layer of bedrock for about 50 ft and vacuumed and found just over 8 gram's. There were large flakes and several pickers. So if an area looks worked do a little work to check it and you might be surprised.
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    18 May 2017 09:02 AM
    Posted By DANIEL STRANTZ on 18 May 2017 07:12 AM

    I worked a small wash that had been vacuumed down to bedrock. I took my small hand sledgehammer and cracked the top layer of bedrock for about 50 ft and vacuumed and found just over 8 gram's. There were large flakes and several pickers. So if an area looks worked do a little work to check it and you might be surprised.


    SHH, lol

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    26 May 2017 09:25 PM

    I like to see these kind of comments to remind people that it takes a lot of practice and research to make it work. I've been prospecting for a long time and telling people that it is a technique that just needs to be refined. I'm not a rich man but i love the outdoors, it feels good to see color in your pan or slouch. Its even a better feeling when you teach someone what you have learned and you get the opportunity to pass it on to someone else.

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    26 May 2017 09:25 PM

    I like to see these kind of comments to remind people that it takes a lot of practice and research to make it work. I've been prospecting for a long time and telling people that it is a technique that just needs to be refined. I'm not a rich man but i love the outdoors, it feels good to see color in your pan or slouch. Its even a better feeling when you teach someone what you have learned and you get the opportunity to pass it on to someone else.

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    28 May 2017 07:15 PM
    Micheal so well said as I do go to outing to try and help people learn what to do .I will be at Burnt river and Blue bucket doing just that .Any and all can come and join in .Just make an outing .Have worked at Stanton and Scot river outings.
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    29 May 2017 04:23 PM
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    29 May 2017 04:25 PM

     

    I have found gold on our claims. It took me a few years to develop the skills but its ther. Tried to post a pic but terrible interface for that

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    30 May 2017 11:27 PM
    Mighty fine!
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    07 Jun 2017 10:36 AM
    Study,study and study some more. Also accept the fact that the entire United States has been mined extensively in the past. I prospect nm , dry desert conditions. I have had good results following advice I have read from Australian prospectors.
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    15 Jun 2017 03:17 PM

    I'm a new member and new to gold prospecting and on each outing I have done I have found gold. Not sure what the people are complaining about. sounds like they either are not digging in the right spots and need more experience to learn that. Or they method they are using to catch the gold is not working for them. I have gone out with the local Delta gold diggers chapter and all the people are friendly and again have always found gold. Glad I joined. 

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    16 Jun 2017 03:26 PM

    If your ever in AZ, look me up.  I find the gold on the GPAA claims and post pics constantly on facebook.  Best day was almost 3 grams.  My 14 year old son picked that spot.  Just have to know where to look.

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    16 Jun 2017 03:26 PM

    If your ever in AZ, look me up.  I find the gold on the GPAA claims and post pics constantly on facebook.  Best day was almost 3 grams.  My 14 year old son picked that spot.  Just have to know where to look.

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    18 Jun 2017 10:27 PM
    Just spent a day on 3 different spots and found gold at all three. I am new at this.
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    01 Aug 2017 01:46 PM
    Holy Cow! I saw this post start almost a year ago and shortly after I got so busy with my Relic Hunting, I took a break from Gold until now, which I am back to, and it's hilarious to see the post still alive LOL
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    14 Dec 2017 02:05 AM
    I agree, the learning curve is steep. You can't just aimlessly dig holes and expect gold. I have read numerous books, listened to others on the forums, talked to people in person that are more than willing to show you spots, and worked my butt off to find the elusive metal. Many headaches and getting skunked at first. Now I can't imagine not prospecting. The first time you see that picker in your pan, you're hooked for life. Like Tim I'd hate to see you go especially when there are so many resources that can be used.
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    17 Dec 2017 06:11 PM
    I've been to a few in Oregon learned real quick if there is no gold in my sluce stop digging in that spot.
    Gold is ware you find it, I've got 3 grams out of blue bucket but had to run 10 yards of dirt.
    If you want easy maybe you should buy gold bags on line.
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    20 Dec 2017 02:27 PM
    Come to southern Arizona and I can take you to GPAA claims that have gold. You will however. have to dig, sweat and get filthy. But the gold is there.
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    20 Dec 2017 04:04 PM

     

    Claims are different for sure.  I have done good at some and not so good at others.  One example that I was pleased with:  my last trip to LDMA claim (Blue Bucket in Oregon) resulted in four grams for five yards of dirt processed.  I am using Gold Hog mats.

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    23 Dec 2017 06:34 AM
    I understand your frustration. Not everybody has the patients, it takes, to fine the elusive. My brother does not enjoy Geocaching, struggles with metal detecting and hide and go seek. The point is, he tried it. Maybe consider asking the locals if you can pan in their back yards. You don't have to mine on GPAA claims. I have found out that there are better places in each stream to mine. Those places get hit the most. May I suggest trying the not so obvious spots. You need to ask yourself. Has getting out and being in the country been enjoyable? Have others things like cows sneaking up on you or seeing deer fighting gone along with your adventure? If you are not happy with this hobby (which is all the more it is) then maybe it is time to sell your stuff and find another. No loss... at least you tried it. We wish you the best with your decision.
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    25 Dec 2017 09:23 AM
    As having had a few claims myself, I will tell you they can be as frustrating as the GPAA claims. If it were possible, I would be a full time miner and not working for someone else. For now, I just enjoy the outdoor adventure and the hunt, makes it well worth it. I'm in the process of prospecting and staking a new claim. It took me 8 months, but I now know the process to stake a claim, but this time I'm looking for one with gold in it in that can have potential for more.

    I'm not in southern AZ, but I'm in central AZ and I will say the gold at those claims, if dry washing, you can find just enough color to make you come back for more. I'm rarely alone out there at this time of year,.
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    19 Jan 2018 10:01 AM
    learn the nature of the beast
    I live in Black bear and lion country, always notice their markings and scat and often enough I see the critters themselves, however I know a few folks that live round here never laid eyes on either one. Course I imagine the only sign they know are the ones posted on the roadway, no offense to em they just be busy with a whole nuther category of life is all. If they slowed down and learned how to recognize these critters sign they would then be more aware of their presence and hence start seein em. You'd need to want to take the time to see em in the first place though.

    Golds the same way I think. Slow down, then listen to and retain the wisdom offered from the experienced prospectors, study and keep studying everything about gold, and be willing to work,you will then find it. Its hard work, you need to love it, moving yards and yards of rock for some little shiny beautiful specks is no joke.Packing your equipment into remote areas can be dangerous.
    For me I achieve a very pure joy, like nirvana, or a pure zen state, just watching material run through a sluice. When you are doing something you love the work part, at its worst, is just a grumpy friend.

    Ifn I see a new prospector mired in frustration I will be more than happy,and in fact if asked, I'd be most obliged to help bring them back to the light.

    The other side of the feather is to remember that prospecting for gold is not for everyone.

    On a side note my favorite bill is my GPAA/LDMA bill, always happy to pay that one.
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    11 Feb 2018 06:48 AM
    LOL, as a new member my confidence in a 108 dollars well spent after reading this comment is not improved, but the comments afterward are encouraging for the most part. I know I pretty much found even when I was decades younger and doing this very part time, the results were decent even on the most heavily worked old claims. Even in Oregon where the Chinese had hydrauliced the hillsides to death, you could still find good pockets. By good I mean you were working yourself like crazy all day to get 15 dollars worth of gold. But it was also 75 dollars an ounce back then. So you're not getting rich, but multiply that about 15 times and that shabby 15 dollars a day would be about 225 in gold today. Pretty good return on a healthy hobby in a healthy environment.

    I would somewhat find it hard to believe that GPAA claims are so bad that if a person really knew what they were doing they do worse then the heavily worked over areas I would go into. But I guess I will find out first hand. I think the access on these National Clubs is quite cheap if you're paying all membership fees with the return of a few days worth of serious mining.


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