Last Post 18 Sep 2019 03:20 PM by  Bernadette Lombardi
Gold Cube vs Blue Bowl
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DAVID JENSEN
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20 Jul 2016 01:52 PM

    Which do you think is better at recovering fine gold, the Gold Cube or Blue Bowl and why?  I have owned and used the Blue Bowl for several years now, and can really appreciate how much fine gold it recovers.  However, I don't like the fact you need to wash your concentrates first or else the water gets really cloudy, which makes it very hard to see what you are doing.  This process can take a lot of time and water to accomplish.  Unfortunately, I have only used the Gold Cube once, so I can't really voice a non-bias opinion other than to say it seemed really easy to use and you don't need to prep your concentrates other than to classify them.  Of course you should do that with any recovery system you are using.  Cleaning up the Gold Cube seemed a little awkward because of the individual stack size, but at the time I only had one gold pan to put everything in, not very much room to do the cleanup, and no running water.  I had to use my sniffer bottle and splash water out of the pan to clean up the individual stacks.  I also have a Desert Fox, which I also haven't used very much.  Now I am thinking about buying a Gold Cube, so I would really appreciate hearing what fellow miners have to say on the subject.  I appreciate your input. 

    Brad Lamb
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    21 Jul 2016 07:31 AM
    I have a Gold Cube, Blue Bowl, Gold Miner Spiral Wheel and Gold Magic Spiral Wheel (electric and manual).

    The Blue Bowl and Gold Miner Spiral Wheel (just got it back from the factory for a new motor) will both be for sale, along with a Martin Table, at the next Outing (Vein Mountain)-shipping costs too much.

    I love the Gold Cube with the Crisson Classifier on top and use it anytime that running my 2.5" Keene Hibanker Dredge Combo is "too much" equipment for the location.

    I cannot say enough good about the Gold Cube. I should have bought this first, right after my first pan and classifier.
    JIM ACKER
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    21 Jul 2016 09:48 AM

    I've had the blue bowl, and after many hour of frustration I went to the CUBE. The engineering and process to use is just way more simple than the Blue Bowl..I went with the 3 stack, but have not seen anything go past the first tray yet. The "Banker" attachment will be my next investment to use stream side. 5 Stars for the Cube. I also have found that depending on the material your running you may or may not want to wet classify. I got into some really "clayee"and "rootie" material and found that even though I maybe didn't have too...That wet classifying and doing a pre-cleaning sure made life easier and kept my water in better condition for a longer period of time. Just my 2c. Good luck. JP

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    02 Dec 2016 12:33 PM
    I don't think you can really compare the 2, I never used the Blue Bowl but was considering getting one to use in conjunction with the Gold Cube. Where I am dredging there is a lot of magnetite after running the gold cube I recover the gold but there is always some very fine gold left in the magnetite this is where the blue bowl would come in handy to separate the gold from the heavies.
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    02 Dec 2016 12:34 PM
    If you are considering buying a Gold Cube Check out this Video:
    ADAM ANDREWS
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    05 Dec 2016 10:50 AM

      Hmm, the cube is great for what it does, they sluice now with the screens...But the blue bowl with the water level set properly is awesome. It gets Gold you can't even see until you blow it into a pile with your sucker bottle. And the price is $75 compared to the cube's $400?

    Brad Lamb
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    05 Dec 2016 11:20 AM
    They are not really in the same category, to me at least.
    I can do a lot more (shovel directly into the highbanker attachment and/or super concentrate, and do quick stream side tests, etc...) with the cube than I can with my blue bowl. I bought the 4 stack system, but, rarely find anything of value past the first 6" of vortex carpet in the first stack. You can get by with a two stack (slick plate stack (top), and vortex carpet stack).

    Both are great at what they are designed to do, with the amount of material you want to run being part of the formula.

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    05 Dec 2016 03:50 PM
    I have to agree with Brad Lamb the Blue Bowl is strictly for clean up, while I use the Gold Cube for clean up you can also use it stream side, lake side, in the desert or where ever. The gold Cube is a lot more versatile and well worth the $400.00.
    Wayne Crowder
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    05 Dec 2016 06:53 PM
    Just got my Gold Cube today . Hopefully, temperature willing, I will be running several 5 gallon buckets through it with fine gold. Panning indicates gold from about 1/16 inch and finer.

    I'll try to update everyone on my experience.

    Wayne

    PS: Temps here are forecast in the single digits midweek.
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    06 Dec 2016 12:48 AM
    Wayne Crowder, I think you will be very pleased with the Gold Cube, let us know how you made out.
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    06 Dec 2016 07:10 AM

    http://www.goldprospector...97-bb18-6fa00e1e3c8f


    Please click the link to see my set up running back in August.  The CrissonGoldMine.com highbanker attachment is sitting to the left.  I had already run the material through it and was superconcentrating the cons from that run, in the pic, just using the slick plate top and all 3 stacks (only need 1 or 2 carpet (recovery) stacks in my opinion).

     

    Ed Bragg
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    06 Dec 2016 08:37 AM
    Lol, Brad, that looks like my front yard/porch.

    I don't have a Gold Cube, yet .. But one thing to note, definitely classify your material less than 1/4, and probably 1/8, it'll work best from what I heard. I still just pan out my cons for clean-up, mostly for stress relief reason (or maybe I'm too cheap).

    Ed
    Brad Lamb
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    09 Dec 2016 02:05 PM
    Ed,

    You owe it to yourself. If you have the opportunity, get the CrissonGoldmine.com highbanker (goldbanker) attachment. It is built like a tank and sets right on top of the top stack (slick plate).

    There is something zen about running the cube with twin battery pumps going (1800 gpm to the highbanker and 1100 gpm going to the slick plate) and just adding a 1/2-3/4 full shovel at a time. It classfies to 12 mesh, which the gold cube eats up. Then, you can either pan out the cup or cup and half of cons you get or rerun it across the slick plate and one or two stacks for a final polish.

    Wayne Crowder
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    11 Dec 2016 09:06 AM
    Got my Gold Cube going after adding more wire length to the pump. Washed the Gold Cube stacks individually in my wife's NEW kitchen sink.

    I only ran about 3 buckets of material, 2 of which were questionable. Got about 11 pieces total on cleanout from the first stack mat. Gold recovered was probably 50 mesh for the largest and flour size for the rest.

    Nothing from the #2 and #3 mats, but will run the cons through the blue bowl in case I missed something with my panning.

    Weather here is COLD and temps in my garage are around freezing. Ice has formed on the top of water in my recirculating system and spare water in my 5 gal. buckets.

    I've got around 10 more buckets of material to run.

    I'll try to do an update later
    Wayne Crowder
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    15 Dec 2016 04:40 PM
    Anybody got any tips on using the Blue Bowl?

    I am currently classifying to either 20 or 30 mesh, then only running the water level to 1/2 inch below the rim(the 100 mesh level). They stopping while there is about a teaspoon full or a little less of black sand left and panning the remains carefully.

    My thinking about stopping there is: I could have missed the extremely small stuff before I started this procedure.

    Comments?
    DAVID JENSEN
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    16 Dec 2016 06:40 AM
    I classify everything from 2 down to 100 mesh first before running anything through the Blue Bowl.  I then run everything from size 8 to 100 separately through the Blue Bowl, and hand pan everything that is size 2 or 4.  I also make sure the Blue Bowl is level and I run the water right up to the top edge of the Blue Bowl to where it is almost overflowing.  I usually have to adjust the water level a little bit as I go depending upon the size of material.  I think the way I do it is what was written in the instructions that came with my Blue Bowl.  However, I do know there are some people out there that don't do it that way. 
    Wayne Crowder
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    17 Dec 2016 11:58 AM
    David,

    Thanks for the reply.
    As I recall, the instructions I got with the Blue Bowl stated that with 100 mesh screened material, only go to within 1/2 inch of the top of the Blue
    Bowl.  If the material is screened with 50 mesh, then go to within 1/4 inch of the top and if the material is screened with 30 mesh, then go all the
    way to the top of the Blue Bowl.

    However, if the 30 or 50 mesh screened material contains 100 mesh and finer gold, where does this gold go if you run the water level to the top of the Blue Bowl?  Probably something I should look into, but being cautious, I have had a tendency to only go to the 1/2 inch mark.  That's where I marked the sides of the Blue Bowl so I could 1) level the bowl and 2) make sure I knew where the 1/2 inch mark was without guessing.

    Also, being cautious, I don't run all the black sand out, but leave some in, then pan the final bit.  Some of the black sand I have seen here is powder/flour size.

    Wayne

    DAVID JENSEN
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    18 Dec 2016 11:45 AM
    I bought my Blue Bowl a long time ago, so it is possible they modified their instructions based on customer feedback. I will have to look into that. Running less water would probably lower the changes of loosing gold, which would in turn increase the amount of black sand you would have to deal with at the end. I guess better safe than sorry. After all we work really hard for every flake, so why risk loosing them.
    Lloyd Lauck
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    19 Dec 2016 09:19 PM
    go on the prospecting channel and find there video which shows you how to use the Blue Bowl
    john McGrath
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    21 Dec 2016 09:45 AM

    I always use the gold cube 4 stack and then pan out by hand which takes way less time than using the blue bowl.  HOWEVER if you know you have an abundance of fines running a couple blue bowls at one time will net you better recovery after using the gold cube.   Both are good tools. I would like to see a triple sized blue bowl then we are talking something that can be used to process better. 

    RON HALL
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    12 Feb 2017 03:59 PM

    I prefer the Gold Cube any day.  I have used both and IMO there is no comparison.  Not to mention the versatility of the gold cube, where the blue bowl is a one trick wonder.

    DENNIS KAHRS
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    13 Feb 2017 07:31 PM

    There is no comparison between the two and as far as I am concerned they were designed for separate purposes.  I owned a Blue Bowl until someone stole it out of the back of my pickup (Thank goodness).  I also own a 4 stacker Gold Cube.  The Blue Bowl is used to separate the gold from the black sand small blond sand once it is refined to that point, like after you run it on through the Gold Cube and screen it down.  I use the Gold Cube to get my material down to the point that I could run it through the Blue Bowl if I still had it.  I live in Colorado and the gold there is mostly fine and too small for the Blue Bowl.  I was told by the manufacturer of the Blue Bowl that is does not get fine gold very well, and from my experience, it doesn't. There are several other superior methods of recovering fine gold.  It does work good for larger gold flakes.  What I use now is the Catch-It-Two water table.  I take my material and run it through the Gold Cube first and then screen it down and spoon it on the Catch-It-Two water table.  The Catch-It-Two water table is slow but you can recover gold so fine that you need a magnifying glass to see it.

    Nicholas Lionberger
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    20 Feb 2017 06:59 PM
    I dont think you can really compare the blue bowl to the cube. I know some folks that use the cube as a production machine but it is basically a clean up sluice, it produces a super concentrate, a blue bowl in correct operation will produce clean gold, that is a big difference. 
    Caleb Bennington
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    21 Feb 2017 12:00 PM
    I have used the gold cube a few times and The Gold Hog multi sluice and would take the Multi sluice and day over the Cube. unless you like panning for hours and hours. just my opinion.
    Brad Lamb
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    22 Feb 2017 04:42 AM
    It would be interesting to see a test of:
    Gold Cube
    Keene Mini Max
    Gold Hog Multisluice

    10+, 40+, 60+ and 100+ mesh tests to quantify the efficiency of each. (also note the optimum gpm of water to gauge how much water you need from the creek or a recirc system)

    I ran over 1 cubic yard of 12-20+ mesh through the cube and recovered a little more than a cup of cons. I was able to pan this in 45 seconds, no losses in the tailings

    GARY WATTS
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    10 May 2017 06:46 AM
    I love the blue bowl and am considering a gold cube for my next large mining related purchase

    Arnold Lapham
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    24 Aug 2018 09:16 AM
    I have the Gold Cube and the frustrating Blue Bowl.
    I’m about ready to contribute it to the land fill.
    The Gold Cube by far is a different technology easy to set up and captures all the gold.

    Tim Swenor
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    09 Feb 2019 09:29 AM
    The two units do two different things! The cube is more used to get your concentrates and the blue is to process the concentrates afterwords. If your trying to get concentrates than take a look at the Keene Mini Max Concentrator. It comes with the Keene Miracle Mat to finish your Concentrates down to a very manageable amount of material to finish up with you blue bowl or just pan them out. It comes with a 2200 gph pump to run your system. It folds up to a smaller size to fit in most trunks and to carry back to your secret gold prospecting area.
    I got mine at AB Prospecting
    https://www.abprospecting.com/node/1122
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    KEVIN HOAGLAND
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    14 Feb 2019 11:46 AM
    It has been said a few times in this thread but to reiterate, Gold Cube for Production-Blue Bowl for final recovery. Two completely different tools in the tool box that work quite well together. Does no good to have a ratchet and no sockets.
    I had a couple of hundred pounds of Nome beach concentrates that I continually ran through the Gold Cube then the finals into the Bowl. although tedious at times the final recovery was excellent.
    Now that I have crushed all of the cons it is time to do it all over again. Summer clean up when it's 120° outside.
    DAVID JENSEN
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    14 Feb 2019 11:56 AM
    Mr. Hoagland,

    Where do you go in Alaska now since GPAAs Cripple River Camp is no longer operating?
    Patrick Rine
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    21 Feb 2019 10:06 PM
    My vote is Blue bowl.
    Get the Treasure Forrest Fenn Hid
    https://www.facebook.com/Rine-Enterprises-Patrick-Rine-335736903815029/
    Chris Starr
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    29 Aug 2019 07:06 PM
    Hopefully I’m not too late to add to the discussion. I came into my gold fever adventure buying just about every contraption out there. No joke I wanted to get as perfect as possible with recovery. I didn’t want to spend the hours digging to watch my hard work skip over the edge.
    After running hundreds of buckets just testing the various machines I found 2 that have been absolutely the best. I exclusively use the Gold Cube for all my buckets now and finish with the blue spiral wheel. I’ve even ran my tailings back through the gold cube and found nothing. I test pan the spiral wheel tailings and have only found 3 microscopic pieces I’d had missed without my goggles on.
    Hopefully this will help someone not make my mistakes of buying almost everything first.
    CS
    Ernest Gollihue
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    11 Sep 2019 01:04 AM
    Tim do you live here in Arizona? I live out near Apache junction
    Tim Swenor
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    11 Sep 2019 09:46 AM
    Ernst,
    I live up in Prescott Valley AZ. I manage A&B Prospecting. If you are ever in my area stop in and see me.
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    13 Sep 2019 01:59 PM
    Thanks Tim. I buy all my stuff from you guys in Mesa. We're having a get together next weekend at one of our claims next weekend. I'm heading up there next Friday and camping out for the weekend in Hayden. Wish me luck 😁😁😁😁😁
    Bernadette Lombardi
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    18 Sep 2019 03:20 PM
    I met the person that invented the blue bowel he ownes pioneer mining in Auburn ca. and he has several size bowls. Great guy wonderful store with a large inventory.
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